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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2012 at 21:45
^ I hope they are not joking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2012 at 11:33
Lol just yesterday one friend told me that he really started diggin' prog. I also forgot to mention that some of my friends like King Crimson's 1st album :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2012 at 12:36


Feel sorry for people who don't like prog. Lol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2012 at 00:14
I'm currently in it, you could say. 
I've actually had some success, at least in suggesting prog songs that I think people would like, if not turning people completely onto prog. One guy I kinda p-o'ed, since I tried everything from Animals as Leaders to Rush to Uzeb, but all were "too relaxing" (Stern Smile). Apart from that I've had pretty good luck. The one time I recommended less-heavy stuff (King Crimson's Starless and The Fierce and the Dead's Part 1) was the time I was talking to someone who *didn't* like heavy stuff, so that was pretty lucky. From there I showed them Relocator, and I might see if they like Ske next time I talk to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 20:40
^ Good. Never force them. I don't think it has ever worked.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 16:04
Most of my friends don't like prog, and sometimes I become annoying to them because whenever we talk about music I almost always mention prog. I have never tried to make them listen to progressive, but some of them liked it, mostly Pink Floyd and other slightly less progressive bands. Never tried to force them to listen to King Crimson, Genesis, Jethro Tull or smt like that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 15:09
well don't I feel sheepish. Lol. You are right. I think as far as promoting prog it has always been a struggle even from a young age. The majority of the people in my life just really don't get it. I remember I had a music project when I was in grade 7 and idea was to select a song and name all the instruments in that song while providing some historical background on it. I selected 'HEY JUDE' by the BEATLES and "ONE OF THESE DAYS" by PINK FLOYD. No one in the class got it. They all looked at each other dumbfounded. Kind of cut me deep at the time. Lol. I also tried promoting some of my prog favs when I was part of a youth group at a church. Anyway, long story short, it's been tuff. Oh and every girlfriend that I've had has always been like "WTF IS THIS??" I stopped promoting a while ago. It matters what I like and no one else. Prog archives is my best bet as far as bonding with other proggers like yourself, mr. Potato.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 14:46
^ I don't think you got it. It's not so much about the religious aspect of prog as it is about promoting prog. Not being mean Mr. Potato, just saying: reading the OP really helps.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 13:04
Yup. Some music can really tap into your spiritual side. I
Not a religious person, but I certainly feel a sonic charge when I listen to the wonderful works of SAVIOUR MACHINE (Christian goth prog) and of course Art Rocks best DEAD CAN DANCE. Think that's about as far as I go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2012 at 12:02
Hi,
 
Nope.
 
I was there before "prog" started. In those days some folks thought that the term "art rock" was more interesting.
 
Listening to the redo's of ELP and KC these days, reminds me what was in my head in those days ... that helped me think this stuff was great, regardless of its label! But you have to have a "side ear" away from the socio-politic idealism that is usually fed you, even with a board like this.
 
Even Rick Wakeman said it ... it's on the net ... it was about the freedom, and that freedom was not "defined" and did not have a name ... and I have to admit, I like it better that way!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2012 at 13:36
When I was younger I tried to convince people that prog was higher art, but now I just try and help people get the most out of whatever style of music they like. In my mind, doing that will open doors for people. Whether or not it leads to them appreciating prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 21:54
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

"progelytiser"...
That was me in my early phase - less of an 'evangelist' and more of a 'progelytizer'...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 00:35
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Here's a photo from the past by my buddy Curt (best concert photographer I ever saw), Yes "Relayer" tour, 1975!!   This would be "Ritual" (notice the Les Paul Junior guitar).  
 
Great pic, indeed reminds of Lifeson Tongue
 

Ha!  When I saw Lifeson onstage, he was wearing high stockings & short-legged pants ("Fly By Night" tour)! 

It's interesting, this "pleated cape" thing that Howe is wearing was the rage back then!  Brian May wore one during the "Night At The Opera" show in Chicago, and the late/great bassist for Starcastle, Gary Strater, also used to wear one!   

Back then, proggers had a well-defined sense of fashion (or lack thereof, if you figure in all the capes that Wakeman wore!).  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 00:26
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

 Did you ever meet anyone in this life that saw the prime lineup of YES? Howe, Squire, Anderson, Wakeman, and Bruford on the Fragile tour? The lineup that was pictured in every rock magazine in America? There is 1 track on YESSONGS featuring this unit. I have yet to hear a full concert of this band. I think this is ironic since YES are the most popular prog band in history and the unit which made them famous has no concert footage or live recordings available to their fans.

Great point!  No, I missed that lineup by months (I saw White with the guys on the CTTE show, my first Yes show).  I knew a few older guys who saw a show at the late/great Kinetic Playground (a dangerous dump of a venue that burned down, taking a King Crimson Mellotron with it!)....the show had Yes open for Led Zeppelin!  Must have been Fragile I think.  

It's interesting, there are a few bits of TV tape with Banks and Kaye in the band, but nothing of the Fragile lineup (when "Roundabout" was topping the charts!).   I don't have an answer to that!  

Oh well, I had the chance to see ABWH, and Bruford with the Union tour (man, did he look bored!).  You bring up some great points, Toddler!  Keep it up!  Cheers, Chuck in Chicago
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 14:52
Very similar phase here, i tend to just keep the more progressive or "weird" (as i describe the music to anyone that asks and i know won't enjoy it) to myself and just play the more alt-rock or mainstream music i own in more shared environments.

I don't get bothered by it though, i know it isn't for everyone. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 10:13
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Here's a photo from the past by my buddy Curt (best concert photographer I ever saw), Yes "Relayer" tour, 1975!!   This would be "Ritual" (notice the Les Paul Junior guitar).  
 
Great pic, indeed reminds of Lifeson Tongue
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 08:45
I just kept the prog fetish to myself for a long time until I found some people who also liked the same music then you could not shut us up! We hung together to swap music but it didnt last long and we were on our separate ways. Its a lonely life this prog business. Pockets of people like some of it and many dont know its prog. Thanks to sites like this and the new Prog magazine its becoming widely known as a genre
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 08:25
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

 
Always great to read your posts. I feel like we are too ancient and the world cannot relate to our experiences. It's interesting to hear about prog in Chicago. Space Rock Capital of the World...that would have been perfect for me. It's very sad to me personally how there were once actual isolated Prog scenes in the 70's and now they are gone. Actually ..there are still local prog scenes but not with the impact we experienced. Strawbs or King Crimson opening for a band like Humble Pie and tickets advertised on the radio ...I still can't believe it. In 2001 or 2002...I saw Nektar at the War Memorial in Trenton, N,J,  Bruce Springsteen was playing across the street that night. I stood outside the theatre remembering when bands like PFM used to open for mainstream Rock acts in the 70's. Wishbone Ash and Camel touring together across the Southern U.S.  Man and Hawkwind touring the U.S. together in 74' and Triumvirat on Don Kirshner's In Concert.  It's been too long since I experienced this and it feels like it all has been replaced with something else.....like phone booths were replace with cell phones. You can drive through South Jersey and not see a phone booth anywhere and that is the feeling I get from it.....as if it is dead. It's good because it's dead...
Thanks, man!  I feel the same, you'd fit right in with my circle of friends (same guys for 50+ years)!!  

My buddy Curt saw King Crimson & their "Islands" tour open for Humble Pie!  I saw the Eagles open for Yes on CTTE!!  
The concert experiences are just too many to recount....Led Zepplin on July 4, 1974 (Chicago Stadium was like a battleground from all the fireworks!), Wild Turkey opening for Jethro Tull's TAAB tour, freakin' PETER FRAMPTON opening for King Crimson & the LTIA show at the late/great Kinetic Playground!!  On & on!   Tickets were usually about $5.00 each (instead of $100.00++!!)

Amazing thing is, us old hippies (or wanna-be's like I am) still hang out & do the same basic stuff!  Now we have amazing local tribute bands like the remarkable "Tributasaurus," who have done entire shows mimicking Genesis, Yes, ABBA, etc.!!  Check 'em out:  http://tributosaurus.bandzoogle.com/setlists.cfm?postid=1536718&feature=2940617

Everybody prog blows through Chicago sooner or later, but the days of the huge concert venue are over....the big shows these days involve all sorts of dance routines.  Lady GaGa, Madonna etc.  

Keep in touch, Toddler!  Here's a photo from the past by my buddy Curt (best concert photographer I ever saw), Yes "Relayer" tour, 1975!!   This would be "Ritual" (notice the Les Paul Junior guitar).  

    Cool shot! He reminds me of Alex Lifeson during the Hemispheres tour. lol!  Did you ever meet anyone in this life that saw the prime lineup of YES? Howe, Squire, Anderson, Wakeman, and Bruford on the Fragile tour? The lineup that was pictured in every rock magazine in America? There is 1 track on YESSONGS featuring this unit. I have yet to hear a full concert of this band. I think this is ironic since YES are the most popular prog band in histpry and the unit which made them famous has no concert footage or live recordings available to their fans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 03:41
I have to say that I have influenced TOO many people when I was young.
From the age of 19 I started working as a DJ, (at a small local bar at first), and slowly slowly I was working in bigger and most known places. So, after the normal Rock-Hard-Heavy etc programm, and when it was late, I started playing  a few Prog songs at first, to see the people's reactions. After sometime I started after a certain hour to play only Prog, and noticed that after a few months there was a new wave of customers that were coming only late, and were really interested about this music. Once I met a guy who was coming every week late at nights only, and he was coming from the other side of Athens only to hear me play music... (Over 30 minutes away with a motorcycle)...
Later when I moved to a smaller bar again, (because I was really tired of slepping at 5-6 in the mornings), I started 1-2 days of the week to play only Progressive. And people were gathering from all around Athens for this...
Ah, great years back then!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 03:36
^ Oh, that is NOT a way to get dressed for a live performance. LOL
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