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    Posted: September 26 2012 at 15:53
Hi,
 
I would suggest that because this band was such a pop/hit band that too many folks will say/think that this is not progressive.
 
It is progressive in that it was not afraid to stretch the pop medium ... but it was STILL, mostly pop music and just "songs". In general, I am not 100% sure that "progressive" is ... just a bunch of songs. Or that it should be, btw! Because at that point the distinction between pop music, and progressive music is lost and gone!
 
But their material, just like Queen's, or 10CC's (for example) is, for all intents and purposes, very progressive. And many times much more so, than some copykat bands that call themselves "progressive".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2012 at 06:17
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

Along with the Beatles, I think I've known their work for all of my life, thanks in part to my parents playing them whenever my family went on a road trip.
That sounds almost exactly like my childhood.  I'd go with my dad to stereo shops and he'd bring the Aja record along to test the stereo systems with.  I know all those 70s Dan albums like the back of my hand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2012 at 00:39
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:


I got "Two Against Nature" when it came out, but something essential seemed to be missing.  It seemed to have all the style but none of the substance of Steely Dan. Granted, by the time of Gaucho, their sound had already begun to get more homogenized, but there were still interesting compositional quirks or unexpected happenings in the songs here and there.  Two Against Nature just sounds like warm milk - smooth and bland.  I haven't bothered to try "Everything Must Go", but I don't have my hopes up.

Agreed, I still think it's an ok album with some good songs. Everything Must Go is about on the same level. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2012 at 00:36
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

All of you fans, check out this album:
 
You won't regret it, it's great.

It's got some great tracks that one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 22:50
One of my favorite artists of all time. Along with the Beatles, I think I've known their work for all of my life, thanks in part to my parents playing them whenever my family went on a road trip.

Also, Donald Fagen is probably the best lyricist of the 1970s, at least in my book.
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 17:26
I'd place the song Aja against any other as the quintessential prog masterpiece.
But I don't think the genre encapsulates all that they are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2012 at 16:19
Donald Fagen is releasing a new album titled Sunken Condos on October 16th.  Here is an article and a link to listen to one of the songs.  http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-premiere-donald-fagen-im-not-the-same-without-you-20120917?link=mostpopular2
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 01:50
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Have been meaning to get to that. How about the one in the middle...something starting with K? LOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 00:35
I'm a bit late to this discussion.  It seems Steely Dan have been moved to Jazz Rock / Fusion since it began.  But I agree with the other assessments.  They are better placed in Crossover.  As so many have pointed out, they are maybe prog's perfect representatives of Crossover, maybe even better than, say, Peter Gabriel.  They have the outsider, buck-the-convention attitude of a prog band, but with scores of pop hits and ear-friendly melodies to ensure their appeal to mainstream America.  But the beauty is, the people who listen to them for the pop hits and ear-friendly melodies are missing the point entirely.  Supposedly Rolling Stone called them the perfect musical antiheroes of the 70s, and that seems right.  They don't belong entirely to prog, that's for sure; but if you fail to acknowledge that there is something more going on in their music than anybody alongside of whom they are played on the radio, you've got it wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 23:14
Steely Dan have always been one of my favourite bands and rightly belong in PA. I love the coolness of their jazz style rock. Donald Fagan's "The Night Fly" is also a great solo effort. "AJA" is probably my favourite album with it's smooth and yet complex jazz rhythms overlaid with memorable and simplistic tonal qualities. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 12:03
WinkSteely Dan are one of the best bands on the planet. Check out Donald Fagan and Walter Becker solo projects and albums created as a duo. They retain a lot of the typical Steely Dan sound, and are timeless additions to any collection. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:46
Have been meaning to get to that. How about the one in the middle...something starting with K? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:44
All of you fans, check out this album:
 
You won't regret it, it's great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:42
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

 
I got "Two Against Nature" when it came out, but something essential seemed to be missing.  

I suggest you try smoking a good bowl, kicking back and enjoying the note by note perfection that is  "What a Shame About Me." Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:30
I think Countdown is the most  prog-compatible of their albums. After that, Aja for the two big jazz fusion-ish tracks and then Royal Scam has an APP rocking much harder than usual feeling.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:26
Originally posted by pied piper pied piper wrote:

I was disappointed when they disbanded, and I loved Fagen's "Nightfly". I was very glad when they regrouped!


Yeah, I love Nightfly too, lovely jazz pop Smile, couldn't believe it was that a**h*** singing so earnestly and, at places, tenderly, actually. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 11:25
Pretty great band.  My father was a pretty big fan in the 70s so I was very familiar with all their albums even way back then, and I still listen to them now.  I've never thought "Can't Buy a Thrill" was all that great, except for the godlike track "Do it Again".  But otherwise, all the albums through Gaucho are great.  My personal favorite is either "Countdown to Ecstasy" or "Royal Scam" - endlessly complex and entertaining, both of them.  Fagen's first solo album "Nightfly" is quite neat too - a real original sounding 50s/80s hybrid, very alluring. 
 
I got "Two Against Nature" when it came out, but something essential seemed to be missing.  It seemed to have all the style but none of the substance of Steely Dan. Granted, by the time of Gaucho, their sound had already begun to get more homogenized, but there were still interesting compositional quirks or unexpected happenings in the songs here and there.  Two Against Nature just sounds like warm milk - smooth and bland.  I haven't bothered to try "Everything Must Go", but I don't have my hopes up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 05:15
I am in LOVE with their first time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 03:58
I do love the band: I still remember the first time I heard "Do it again", in 1973.
I was disappointed when they disbanded, and I loved Fagen's "Nightfly". I was very glad when they regrouped!
I had been lucky to see them on stage, while touring Italy: superb music, extraordinary musicians.
Of course it's no progressive, but I'm used to listen to many genres.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 14:05
I wrote about SD sub-gen and i think Jazz rock/fusion is good for this great band. I love 2 first albums and AJA  is special for me. I listen fagen and becker solo albums and i think if they join then they can release more better stuff.
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