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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18993 |
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Hi,
I would suggest that because this band was such a pop/hit band that too many folks will say/think that this is not progressive. It is progressive in that it was not afraid to stretch the pop medium ... but it was STILL, mostly pop music and just "songs". In general, I am not 100% sure that "progressive" is ... just a bunch of songs. Or that it should be, btw! Because at that point the distinction between pop music, and progressive music is lost and gone! But their material, just like Queen's, or 10CC's (for example) is, for all intents and purposes, very progressive. And many times much more so, than some copykat bands that call themselves "progressive".
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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Agreed, I still think it's an ok album with some good songs. Everything Must Go is about on the same level.
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irrelevant ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
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It's got some great tracks that one.
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KingCrInuYasha ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
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One of my favorite artists of all time. Along with the Beatles, I think I've known their work for all of my life, thanks in part to my parents playing them whenever my family went on a road trip.
Also, Donald Fagen is probably the best lyricist of the 1970s, at least in my book. |
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hobocamp ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2010 Location: Fine Furniture Status: Offline Points: 525 |
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I'd place the song Aja against any other as the quintessential prog masterpiece.
But I don't think the genre encapsulates all that they are. |
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Donald Fagen is releasing a new album titled Sunken Condos on October 16th. Here is an article and a link to listen to one of the songs. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-premiere-donald-fagen-im-not-the-same-without-you-20120917?link=mostpopular2
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Rabid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 20 2008 Location: Bridge of Knows Status: Offline Points: 512 |
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Kamakiriad - Good album
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"...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..."
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KyleSchmidlin ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: December 21 2009 Location: Texas, USA Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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I'm a bit late to this discussion. It seems Steely Dan have been moved to Jazz Rock / Fusion since it began. But I agree with the other assessments. They are better placed in Crossover. As so many have pointed out, they are maybe prog's perfect representatives of Crossover, maybe even better than, say, Peter Gabriel. They have the outsider, buck-the-convention attitude of a prog band, but with scores of pop hits and ear-friendly melodies to ensure their appeal to mainstream America. But the beauty is, the people who listen to them for the pop hits and ear-friendly melodies are missing the point entirely. Supposedly Rolling Stone called them the perfect musical antiheroes of the 70s, and that seems right. They don't belong entirely to prog, that's for sure; but if you fail to acknowledge that there is something more going on in their music than anybody alongside of whom they are played on the radio, you've got it wrong.
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valravennz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 20 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 2546 |
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Steely Dan have always been one of my favourite bands and rightly belong in PA. I love the coolness of their jazz style rock. Donald Fagan's "The Night Fly" is also a great solo effort. "AJA" is probably my favourite album with it's smooth and yet complex jazz rhythms overlaid with memorable and simplistic tonal qualities.
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Norman Kiddie ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: February 16 2009 Location: Stuttgart Status: Offline Points: 81 |
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Have been meaning to get to that. How about the one in the middle...something starting with K?
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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All of you fans, check out this album:
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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I suggest you try smoking a good bowl, kicking back and enjoying the note by note perfection that is "What a Shame About Me."
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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I think Countdown is the most prog-compatible of their albums. After that, Aja for the two big jazz fusion-ish tracks and then Royal Scam has an APP rocking much harder than usual feeling.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Yeah, I love Nightfly too, lovely jazz pop ![]() ![]() |
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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Pretty great band. My father was a pretty big fan in the 70s so I was very familiar with all their albums even way back then, and I still listen to them now. I've never thought "Can't Buy a Thrill" was all that great, except for the godlike track "Do it Again". But otherwise, all the albums through Gaucho are great. My personal favorite is either "Countdown to Ecstasy" or "Royal Scam" - endlessly complex and entertaining, both of them. Fagen's first solo album "Nightfly" is quite neat too - a real original sounding 50s/80s hybrid, very alluring.
I got "Two Against Nature" when it came out, but something essential seemed to be missing. It seemed to have all the style but none of the substance of Steely Dan. Granted, by the time of Gaucho, their sound had already begun to get more homogenized, but there were still interesting compositional quirks or unexpected happenings in the songs here and there. Two Against Nature just sounds like warm milk - smooth and bland. I haven't bothered to try "Everything Must Go", but I don't have my hopes up. Edited by HolyMoly - May 25 2010 at 11:26 |
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The Runaway ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2009 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 3144 |
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I am in LOVE with their first time.
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pied piper ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2010 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 94 |
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I do love the band: I still remember the first time I heard "Do it again", in 1973.
I was disappointed when they disbanded, and I loved Fagen's "Nightfly". I was very glad when they regrouped! I had been lucky to see them on stage, while touring Italy: superb music, extraordinary musicians. Of course it's no progressive, but I'm used to listen to many genres.
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O666 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2009 Location: TEHRAN-IRAN Status: Offline Points: 2619 |
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I wrote about SD sub-gen and i think Jazz rock/fusion is good for this great band. I love 2 first albums and AJA is special for me. I listen fagen and becker solo albums and i think if they join then they can release more better stuff.
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