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    Posted: September 26 2012 at 20:41
Looking through my vast collection of prog-rock... I feel like something is missing. Sure, most of my collection is within the Archives Top 100, and on many people's favorite album lists, but I feel like there are some lesser-known essential albums that I'm missing out on. Does anybody have suggestions for this type of thing? 
I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 20:55
Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

Looking through my vast collection of prog-rock... I feel like something is missing. Sure, most of my collection is within the Archives Top 100, and on many people's favorite album lists, but I feel like there are some lesser-known essential albums that I'm missing out on. Does anybody have suggestions for this type of thing? 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 21:03
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

Looking through my vast collection of prog-rock... I feel like something is missing. Sure, most of my collection is within the Archives Top 100, and on many people's favorite album lists, but I feel like there are some lesser-known essential albums that I'm missing out on. Does anybody have suggestions for this type of thing? 



Are you wondering what's incredible outside of the PROG ARCHIVES 100? Or the entire website itself?? 💽


I know some great stuff out of the PA 100, but I feel like there's some essential stuff out there that I'm missing, and just can't really find yet on the website.
I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 21:04
You should collect Nurse With Wound albums. They are numerous and hard to find.

Also, get The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. A lot of people seem not to know that one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 21:04
What's essential for you could differ from what's essential for me, or for anyone other than yourself.  What are some of your favorites from what you do have, so potential posters can be of more appropriate assistance, rather than spouting out personal favorites with no reasoning?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 21:39
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

What's essential for you could differ from what's essential for me, or for anyone other than yourself.  What are some of your favorites from what you do have, so potential posters can be of more appropriate assistance, rather than spouting out personal favorites with no reasoning?


I'll do a favorite from each subgenre, if that'll help.

Canterbury: "Third" by Soft Machine
Crossover: "Grace for Drowning" by Steven Wilson or "OK Computer" by Radiohead
Eclectic: "In The Court of the Crimson King" by King Crimson or "Pawn Hearts" by VdGG
Experimental/Post-Metal: "Lateralus" by Tool or "The Mantle" by Agalloch
Heavy: "Visions" by Haken or "A Farewell to Kings" by Rush
Indo/Raga: I haven't really sampled this one yet.
Jazz Rock/Fusion: "You Are Here... I Am There" by The Keith Tippett Group or "In A Silent Way" by Miles Davis
Krautrock: Haven't really sampled this either, I've heard some stuff by Neu! and Popol Vuh
Neo: "Marbles" by Marillion
Post/Math: "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven" by Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Folk: "Aqualung" by Jethro Tull or "First Utterance" by Comus
Electronic: Not sure, haven't really sampled this one.
Metal: "Black Clouds and Silver Linings" or "Awake" by Dream Theater
Psychedelic/Space: "Meddle" or "Animals" by Pink Floyd
RIO/Avant: "Spillane" by John Zorn
RPI: "Per Un Amico" by PFM
Symphonic: "Bridge Across Forever" by Transatlantic or "Selling England By The Pound" by Genesis
Tech/Extreme: "Morningrise" by Opeth
Zeuhl: I've heard bits and pieces of Magma, but I don't have a favorite yet.
I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 21:50
I can offer some assistance in a couple you've not yet explored much, if that would be helpful;
Indo/Raga - the only one I'm familiar with is Natural Elements, by Shakti; if you enjoy John Mclaughlin's guitar work in Mahavishnu Orchestra but wish it was acoustic and in a fused style of jazzy and Indian stylings, you'd likely enjoy it.
Krautrock - I love, love, love a lot of stuff from this genre.  Both you mentioned are great groups, I'd also suggest checking out some Can - Tago Mago is my personal favorite, I'd suggest starting with Ege Bamyasi or Future Days first, though.  Faust is another good one to check out, specifically Faust IV for beginning.  I could go on and on, but I'll stop with those two groups for tonight.
Electronic: Try some of Tangerine Dream's earlier stuff (Phaedra or Rubycon are probably the best starting points) and/or some Klaus Schulze (Timewind, Picture Music, Mirage)
Folk: Spirogyra and Pentangle are suggested based on the like of Comus.  Both are more excellent of almost entirely acoustic prog folk. 
RIO/Avant - I'd suggest listening to some Univers Zero, Present, Samla Mammas Manna, etc...I'm more biased than normal in this genre, though. Wink
Zeuhl - if you like what Magma you've heard, consider checking out uhh...Weidorje, maybe, and if you want a more absurd sounding version of Zeuhl, check out Koenjihyakkei (Angherr Shisspa or Nivraym are my two personal favorites of the group's four).

Hope these have been helpful!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 22:01
Krautrock and Electronic are probably my two favorite subgenres.

As Salty said, you must get some Tangerine Dream, some Kraftwerk (Radioactivity is my favorite) and some Brian Eno (all of the first four vocal albums are five star records for me, and the ambient stuff isn't far behind.) Mirage by Klaus Schulze

As far as Krautrock goes, the first two albums from Faust, Ege Bamyasi from Can, Ash Ra Tempel's self titled debut and maybe some Amon Duul.

From RIO (another favorite genre) be sure you are listening to Captain Beefheart. Trout Mask Replica is his most popular, but can be a bit impenetrable, so Safe As Milk or Mirror Man are easier to get into.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 22:33
Judging by your tastes, you'd probably love maudlin of the Well; they're material is essential, in my opinion.  Just don't start with their debut, as it's not quite as good as their later masterpieces.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 23:11

Can seems to be underrappreciated on this site. Maybe not overlooked, but underrated.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 23:13
Umm, no they don't.  They seemed to be mentioned, and loved, in every other thread!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 23:19
Mei. 'Nuff said.

EDIT: The band's Echolyn, just to let you know


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 23:55
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
 
the post-rock godfathers' ultra genius statement of modern rock music that takes in everything from krautrock, prog, jazz fusion, film music, electronics, dub, systems music AND yet sounds like something only they could do...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 06:57
Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

 

Canterbury: "Third" by Soft Machine
Crossover: "Grace for Drowning" by Steven Wilson or "OK Computer" by Radiohead
Eclectic: "In The Court of the Crimson King" by King Crimson or "Pawn Hearts" by VdGG
Experimental/Post-Metal: "Lateralus" by Tool or "The Mantle" by Agalloch
Heavy: "Visions" by Haken or "A Farewell to Kings" by Rush
Indo/Raga: I haven't really sampled this one yet.
Jazz Rock/Fusion: "You Are Here... I Am There" by The Keith Tippett Group or "In A Silent Way" by Miles Davis
Krautrock: Haven't really sampled this either, I've heard some stuff by Neu! and Popol Vuh
Neo: "Marbles" by Marillion
Post/Math: "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven" by Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Folk: "Aqualung" by Jethro Tull or "First Utterance" by Comus
Electronic: Not sure, haven't really sampled this one.
Metal: "Black Clouds and Silver Linings" or "Awake" by Dream Theater
Psychedelic/Space: "Meddle" or "Animals" by Pink Floyd
RIO/Avant: "Spillane" by John Zorn
RPI: "Per Un Amico" by PFM
Symphonic: "Bridge Across Forever" by Transatlantic or "Selling England By The Pound" by Genesis
Tech/Extreme: "Morningrise" by Opeth
Zeuhl: I've heard bits and pieces of Magma, but I don't have a favorite yet.

Canterbury: Hatfield & The North - Hatfield & The North
Crossover: Peter Gabriel - third self-titled album
Eclectic: Gentle Giant - Three Friends
Experimental/Post Metal: Isis - Panopticon
Heavy: Uriah Heep - Salisbury
Indo/Raga: Third Ear Band - Alchemy
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric
Krautrock: Can - Future Days
Neo: Pallas - The Sentinel
Post/Math: A Silver Mt. Zion - This Is Our Punk Rock...
Folk: Strawbs - From The Witchwood
Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Force Majuere
Metal: Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Psychedelic/Space: Nektar - Remember The Future
RIO/Avant: Henry Cow - Unrest
RPI: Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
Symphonic: Yes - Fragile
Tech/Extreme: Edge Of Sanity - Crimson
Zeuhl: Eskaton - 4 Visions



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 07:04
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

What's essential for you could differ from what's essential for me, or for anyone other than yourself.  What are some of your favorites from what you do have, so potential posters can be of more appropriate assistance, rather than spouting out personal favorites with no reasoning?



Nailed it!! I agree. Everyone is different and gravitates towards a specific sound that they love. Just tell me what sub genre of prog you love and I will be sure to help you. 👊
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 17:04
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Umm, no they don't.  They seemed to be mentioned, and loved, in every other thread!
 
Yeah that is true. I guess what I meant was, their albums are rated sort of low.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 18:35
You know I have to say, that the NEO PROG bands: ARENA and IQ. have a solid underground following, but aren't really widely known by very many. ARENA and IQ. are definately essential prog. They cannot be overlooked.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 19:28
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

 

Canterbury: "Third" by Soft Machine
Crossover: "Grace for Drowning" by Steven Wilson or "OK Computer" by Radiohead
Eclectic: "In The Court of the Crimson King" by King Crimson or "Pawn Hearts" by VdGG
Experimental/Post-Metal: "Lateralus" by Tool or "The Mantle" by Agalloch
Heavy: "Visions" by Haken or "A Farewell to Kings" by Rush
Indo/Raga: I haven't really sampled this one yet.
Jazz Rock/Fusion: "You Are Here... I Am There" by The Keith Tippett Group or "In A Silent Way" by Miles Davis
Krautrock: Haven't really sampled this either, I've heard some stuff by Neu! and Popol Vuh
Neo: "Marbles" by Marillion
Post/Math: "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven" by Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Folk: "Aqualung" by Jethro Tull or "First Utterance" by Comus
Electronic: Not sure, haven't really sampled this one.
Metal: "Black Clouds and Silver Linings" or "Awake" by Dream Theater
Psychedelic/Space: "Meddle" or "Animals" by Pink Floyd
RIO/Avant: "Spillane" by John Zorn
RPI: "Per Un Amico" by PFM
Symphonic: "Bridge Across Forever" by Transatlantic or "Selling England By The Pound" by Genesis
Tech/Extreme: "Morningrise" by Opeth
Zeuhl: I've heard bits and pieces of Magma, but I don't have a favorite yet.

Canterbury: Hatfield & The North - Hatfield & The North
Crossover: Peter Gabriel - third self-titled album
Eclectic: Gentle Giant - Three Friends
Indo/Raga: Third Ear Band - Alchemy
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric
Krautrock: Can - Future Days
Neo: Pallas - The Sentinel
Post/Math: A Silver Mt. Zion - This Is Our Punk Rock...
Folk: Strawbs - From The Witchwood
Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Force Majuere
Psychedelic/Space: Nektar - Remember The Future
RIO/Avant: Henry Cow - Unrest
RPI: Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
Tech/Extreme: Edge Of Sanity - Crimson
Zeuhl: Eskaton - 4 Visions





A few of the albums you listed are ones I've already heard and LOVED. I'll definitely take a look at these remaining ones, thank you!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2012 at 21:36
^Yeah, I thought you might be familiar with some already like Yes, but it's impossible to know what somebody has already heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2012 at 00:07
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

Looking through my vast collection of prog-rock... I feel like something is missing. Sure, most of my collection is within the Archives Top 100, and on many people's favorite album lists, but I feel like there are some lesser-known essential albums that I'm missing out on. Does anybody have suggestions for this type of thing? 



Are you wondering what's incredible outside of the PROG ARCHIVES 100? Or the entire website itself?? 💽


Ok. Cool. How do you feel about NEO PROG? Explored that genre much other than MARILLION? I really recommend IQ. and ARENA. Its essential prog that really isnt very widely known.
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