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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13871 |
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I, for one, would rather that you and I agree to disagree, and end this part of the debate. Okay? Because it does seem to me that we might potentially have a goer in the album tagging, if Max agrees.
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I'd elect not to repeat myself, you guys might want to follow my lead on that part.
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Warthur ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2008 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 617 |
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In both the cases I was thinking of - Squackett and Arch/Matheos - this wouldn't actually be possible because whilst we can all add albums, we can't add artists. Essentially, what I am proposing is that someone should have the power to override the genre teams and just add an artist if it's taking unacceptably long for the genre teams to assign the artist in question (as was the case with Squackett).
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Warthur ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2008 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 617 |
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I like this sort of approach but would suggest that Canterbury would more properly belong under fusion - it's a highly jazz-influenced subgenre, easily to a similar extent as zeuhl is, and indeed many Canterbury artists have drifted between Canterbury and fusion with ease.
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Bosh66 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2009 Location: Bolton, Lancs Status: Offline Points: 528 |
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While I think that album tagging (not artist tagging) can add value, this proposed consolidation of genres seems to me more likely to erode value. Where genres do overlap (space and psych for instance) they are held in the same bucket already. In the example above, why would RPI remain a separate entity while folk and neo don't (both also have a distinct sound and characteristics)?
I do think that RPI is more than italian symphonic and should have its own sub-genre team. I also think that neo-prog is more than 1980s symphonic prog. Either consolidate all three (Symphonic / Neo / RPI) or leave them as they are. Actually, leave them as they are. Edited by Bosh66 - January 23 2013 at 07:17 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65801 |
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^ Great points -
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moodyxadi ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 01 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 417 |
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As an avid user and ocasional reviewer I believe that option (2) of the OP is good. However, when thinking about the tremendous work it would lead (and confusion, fights etc.) I think that keepin' the system as it is today and adding an album by album sublabeling it would be great, specially when you have some bands with a monstruous discog and lots of career's turning points. Like in the MMA. So, it's easier to mantain the things and to add a common sense mark (by the colabs) on each album that is diverse from the main trend of the band.
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moodyxadi ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 01 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 417 |
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Wonderful idea. Is it practical?
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Bach, Ma, Bros, Déia, Dante.
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
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Just use multiple tags for artists, like RateYourMusic does. Then all you need are:
Symphonic Canterbury Avant (Zeuhl as subgenre) Psych/Space Krautrock Neo Art Rock / Crossover (Heavy Prog as subgenre) Fusion Progressive Folk Progressive Electronic Proto / Related Eclectic becomes obsolete due to multiple genre tagging. Raga is not substantial enough. Imo prog metal is a type of metal, not a type of prog (whereas prog "rock" is far more removed from rock than "prog" metal is from metal). Post rock is not prog.
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mogol ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: September 26 2011 Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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I've found this thread only now. It's been 2 years. Has any decision been taken?
I personally would love to see album tagging by users here - with not only prog-related tags, but also with usual music genres as blues, jazz, classical, etc. It would great if instead the subgenre the site shows several most frequently assigned tags (maybe with percentage). In such case the whole RPI (as well as any other genre) argument would be senseless - users and time will decide if there really is such a subgenre.
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