Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Signals and Hold Your Fire are some of Rush's best work to date.

Horizons wrote: Signals and Hold Your Fire are some of Rush's best work to date.

Posted my response to barney before seeing this.  I don't really agree, but I have an appreciation for both albums.  If there was ever one thing I loved about Rush, it was that they never stood still, never stayed in one place musically for long.  I don't always like what they did, but they kept evolving, at least.  Great band, one of the greatest ever for sure.

i'm a pretty big rush fan.  i pretty much like all of it and it's easier to discuss what i don't like.  ironically, i'm not a fan of 2112, the song or the album.  i love the overture and temples, but the rest is so goofy.  when the dude finds the guitar and starts tuning it.  not to mention pearts naive Randian libertian politics.  i think necromancer is way better.  

M27Barney wrote: The thing with Rush - was - I listened to Signals when it came out - (I think I have it on vinyl only) - really disliked it. Then  from that point on - it was look at the new Rush release - oh - look nine/ten tracks all three/four or five mins long - Synth pop album then....make decision not to buy..... The FIRST thing I look for in a release by a band is the length of the tracks....... It has served me reasonably well so far I think,,,,,

dennismoore wrote: zumacraig wrote: ... encapsulates a zeitgeist?   WTF???         What in tar nation is this fella talkinbout?                      By the way, I have always enjoyed Signals since it first came out, lots of keys for sure. Subdivisions may be the weak link but i love all the rest of that record from start to finish. Some people are just anti-keyboard I suppose.  After the runaway success that was Moving Pictures perhaps the lads should have taken more time before signals but it was still a nice follow up. But it was the beginning of the end of Alex's wonderful warm analog electric guitar and his brilliant doubletracking of acoustic guitars...   All of you should take a time out and enjoy Hemsipheres while I figure out what the heck Zuma is talkin about above.

So true about Alex's guitar. With that, the riffs ended too. What the hell happened on 1984? Did alien I peters take over rock? The change in sound and aesthetics is astounding!

Zeitgeist - German word meaning "Spirit of the times" is it not? - usually used to  sort of encapsulate the current flavour of a culture - Also usually used to show that somethings that are now considered totally "un-pc" were perfectly acceptible only a few decades ago....Having said that - short pop-songs with loads of digital  synths were never part of any Zeitgeist that I bought into......Has symphonic prog ever been part of the Zeitgeist? - perhaps - 1972-75?? It certainly isn't now !!! I am certainly never going to buy any more Rush until they bring out - "Leviathan - Cygnus X-1 Book III".....I don't think that I will be seeing that before I die.....Anyway - listen to the start of "Count of Tuscany" by DT - now that is the sort of music that Rush should have been producing in the past 20 years.....

M27Barney wrote: Zeitgeist - German word meaning "Spirit of the times" is it not? - usually used to  sort of encapsulate the current flavour of a culture - Also usually used to show that somethings that are now considered totally "un-pc" were perfectly acceptible only a few decades ago....Having said that - short pop-songs with loads of digital  synths were never part of any Zeitgeist that I bought into......Has symphonic prog ever been part of the Zeitgeist? - perhaps - 1972-75?? It certainly isn't now !!! I am certainly never going to buy any more Rush until they bring out - "Leviathan - Cygnus X-1 Book III".....I don't think that I will be seeing that before I die.....Anyway - listen to the start of "Count of Tuscany" by DT - now that is the sort of music that Rush should have been producing in the past 20 years.....

Roland113 wrote: M27Barney wrote: Zeitgeist - German word meaning "Spirit of the times" is it not? - usually used to  sort of encapsulate the current flavour of a culture - Also usually used to show that somethings that are now considered totally "un-pc" were perfectly acceptible only a few decades ago....Having said that - short pop-songs with loads of digital  synths were never part of any Zeitgeist that I bought into......Has symphonic prog ever been part of the Zeitgeist? - perhaps - 1972-75?? It certainly isn't now !!! I am certainly never going to buy any more Rush until they bring out - "Leviathan - Cygnus X-1 Book III".....I don't think that I will be seeing that before I die.....Anyway - listen to the start of "Count of Tuscany" by DT - now that is the sort of music that Rush should have been producing in the past 20 years..... Sucking on his pipe . . . distinguished accent . . . making me uptight . . . no accident I'll take Rush, lyrically at least . . .

I did say the START of COT....Sigh, Yes the Lyrics are a tad rubbisho, but no more than the lyrical content of some of the flokis bible-thumping rhetoric.....Anyway Count..... is better than anything Rush have done since 1980- and that may be my personal opinion but musically they have done nothing as technically superb as DT since that date and that's a FACT.

Mr. Mustard wrote: New album entitled "Desolation Rose" to be released in October. Not sure how reliable the source is though.

AlanB wrote:   Not sure as this thread goes all over the place.......

True, but that's the appeal, quite a few different people checking in here now too.

Desolation Rose eh?