Once computers entered the picture for editing and recording.. the game was over. The new prog is the copy and paste generation.There are kids making prog albums on Garage Band that have never picked up an instrument. Put your computers away when it's time to record music. Pick up your instrument and try to make Close to the Edge, Tarkus, Foxtrot or The Power and the Glory without the crutch of a computer. Then you'll quickly get a real wake up call and an appreciate for the great bands that came before all this digital silliness.
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 00:41
Once computers entered the picture for editing and recording.. the game was over. The new prog is the copy and paste generation.
There are kids making prog albums on Garage Band that have never picked up an instrument.
Put your computers away when it's time to record music. Pick up your instrument and try to make Close to the Edge, Tarkus, Foxtrot or The Power and the Glory without the crutch of a computer. Then you'll quickly get a real wake up call and an appreciate for the great bands that came before all this digital silliness.
That was nice. Shame the album's not available anymore. Well, not on any site I've seen anyway.
Did I post this tune in this thread (I forget things) - or are you just mentioning it as an example of inaccessible music?
And yeah, you're quite right - such a shame this hasn't received a proper re-issue. One of my fave albums located in the much maligned Indo Prog/Raga rock sub.
EDIT: Seems that I did Wow I was positive that it was in another thread...yeah I'm getting old
Edited by Guldbamsen - September 29 2013 at 06:22
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 23:19
No hesitation...
Between the Buried and Me
And I say this as A FAN. It took me a year to even figure out there was A FREAKIN PATTERN buried in all that noise.
Sometimes it's hard to even figure out why the track markers show up where they do, because you can't pick out one "song" from another, and there's no structure to it anyway (not that's immediately noticeable anyway) so it all comes across as:
Cool riff A
Cool riff B
Cool riff C
Cool riff D
Cool riff E
Cool riff F
(oh, what the hell, we've been doing this awhile, let's put a track marker here)
Cool riff G
Cool riff H
Cool riff I
Cool riff J
Cool riff K
Cool riff L
(another random track marker)
etc...etc...etc.
But it was the fact that some of those little individual "bits" were really quite cool. And then after revisiting it for the umpteenth time, I started to notice that there were some repeating patterns that were showing up RHYTHMICALLY. Then I was like, "hey wait a minute...this is not random...they're doing this on PURPOSE!"
That's when it really started to click. Now I'm hooked. I can't help it. I'm addicted.
But it's easily the most inaccessible thing I've heard since Naked City....or maybe Disco Volante by Mr Bungle. .
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 21:02
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Horizons wrote:
I promise there is emotional Math-Rock. It's just the PR/MR charts are unreliable.
Look up the band Pretend, and their album - Bones in the Soil, Rust in the Oil. Hope you enjoy.
Thanks. I will give that album an ear and post later in this thread.
Listened to a few tracks....I wouldn't call it Math Rock...kind of loosely structured jams that the drummer can improvise around with the guitarists leading the four piece along a fairly predictable journey. I kept thinking of the Grateful Dead for some reason....not a bad record, certainly not over produced....under produced, if anything. I like how the guitarists avoid any fuzz/distortion and keep a clean sound....thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 13:52
It took me a long to time to start to appreciate Zappa; he remains one of those artists I enjoy only some of the time and for some of his output. Even with that, there is still a wide body of his work I can get into.
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 13:25
Hi,
it's a tough answer, because there are too many things that people use to make their call.
From experience, over the years, I would say Amon Duul 2 is such a band ... and the reasons are quite interesting ... some folks get hung up real bad on the vocals ... and then my favorite ... each piece is so different from the next (specially in the early days), that most folks have a hard time enjoying it ... the "recognizeable" thing that you like in that song, won't be found in other songs! And generally, that is a good prescription for ... a lot of folks. It does not have that "top ten" kind of thing that everyone knows or wants!
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Wow I was positive that it was in another thread...yeah I'm getting old
