Most inaccessible Prog?

Take away their electric guitars, mellotrons and hammond organs, then it would sound more natural, take away their electricity then it wouldn't sound fake, get everyone off their arses and down to the concert hall.. that helps. Listeners might actually listen to another (? another what?) ... rather than trolling.

I find the diversity of our various prog likes and dislikes interesting but not surprising. One man's gold is another man's trash syndrome.

Greg W wrote: Silly unproductive thread.

progbethyname wrote:   Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating.

progbethyname wrote: Dean wrote: dr wu23 wrote: deafmoon wrote: To me it comes down to The Song. What I love about Prog in all it's forms is the calibre of musicianship yes, but rolled into playing for The Song. Prog, generally offers a higher understanding of musical form by the composer. This excites and inspires me. That said the stuff that does nothing for me as a listener is: Shred Fest unison playing, time changing every 32 to 64 bars, in a poorly written structure that simply becomes monotonous. Alot of Prog Metal, but not all, leaves me feeling flat. The worst offender to my ears has always been and continues to be - maybe even worse now -   Dream Theater. I continue to offer them my ears and they continue to leave me flat. They do however have excellent musicians, they just can't write for The Song.   We are on the same page here....... I have always had a problem getting into 'prog  metal' and the even heavier versions of that. It's not inaccessible to me but it doesn't move me. I suppose much of the extreme metal/tech metal/math rock stuff  is 'inaccessible' to me. That's probably why I can't get into jazz. Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating.

Dean wrote: dr wu23 wrote: deafmoon wrote: To me it comes down to The Song. What I love about Prog in all it's forms is the calibre of musicianship yes, but rolled into playing for The Song. Prog, generally offers a higher understanding of musical form by the composer. This excites and inspires me. That said the stuff that does nothing for me as a listener is: Shred Fest unison playing, time changing every 32 to 64 bars, in a poorly written structure that simply becomes monotonous. Alot of Prog Metal, but not all, leaves me feeling flat. The worst offender to my ears has always been and continues to be - maybe even worse now -   Dream Theater. I continue to offer them my ears and they continue to leave me flat. They do however have excellent musicians, they just can't write for The Song.   We are on the same page here....... I have always had a problem getting into 'prog  metal' and the even heavier versions of that. It's not inaccessible to me but it doesn't move me. I suppose much of the extreme metal/tech metal/math rock stuff  is 'inaccessible' to me. That's probably why I can't get into jazz.

Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating.

The Mars Volta are a unique group for me, they are the only band I have discovered that can give me a full blown migraine when I listen to them

Don't get me wrong, they are technically super talented and their lyrics are super strange (always a positive in prog) and I can easily understand why people love them, but for me the high pitch singling/screeching along with the constantly loud and piercing music makes my ears bleed. It takes an iron will for me to listen to one of their songs from start to end and a whole album from them would just finish me off.   

I find quite a lot of Yes annoying - the crass lyrics and random tempo changes, the unnecessarily elaborate guitar and the over  complicated drumming. 

Edited by Dragontrouser - October 06 2013 at 17:53

dr wu23 wrote: deafmoon wrote: To me it comes down to The Song. What I love about Prog in all it's forms is the calibre of musicianship yes, but rolled into playing for The Song. Prog, generally offers a higher understanding of musical form by the composer. This excites and inspires me. That said the stuff that does nothing for me as a listener is: Shred Fest unison playing, time changing every 32 to 64 bars, in a poorly written structure that simply becomes monotonous. Alot of Prog Metal, but not all, leaves me feeling flat. The worst offender to my ears has always been and continues to be - maybe even worse now -   Dream Theater. I continue to offer them my ears and they continue to leave me flat. They do however have excellent musicians, they just can't write for The Song.   We are on the same page here....... I have always had a problem getting into 'prog  metal' and the even heavier versions of that. It's not inaccessible to me but it doesn't move me. I suppose much of the extreme metal/tech metal/math rock stuff  is 'inaccessible' to me.

That's probably why I can't get into jazz.

To me it comes down to The Song. What I love about Prog in all it's forms is the calibre of musicianship yes, but rolled into playing for The Song. Prog, generally offers a higher understanding of musical form by the composer. This excites and inspires me. That said the stuff that does nothing for me as a listener is: