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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2013 at 11:59
Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

[QUOTE=irrelevant]The sort of cheesy prog that can occasionally sound like Christian rock. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2013 at 09:22
For my tastes, progressive electronic is the toughest subgenre to appreciate.  Maybe it's just because I'm old (47).  However, I was in grade school during Tangerine Dream's heyday.  I was also a big fan on Ministry back in the 1980's; which deserves to be on this site just as much as Nine Inch Nails does.  I like music with contrast and feeling.  Progressive electronic music is just too static and a little cold for my tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2013 at 18:43
Henry Kaiser and Fred Frith together. With Friends Like These... is rather inaccessible, but I like it all the same.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2013 at 09:49
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

For me Univers Zero and RIO in general. It's why I never really got into them or the genre as a whole. Thinking Plague is another band that comes to mind. I'm sure they are talented but so far I just haven't really gotten into that stuff.



 

I felt the same way but did a little exploring of the UZ songs and sure enough found some great stuff. These pieces are structured, melodic, a bit off kilter, but highly recommended:

 

"Parade" - Uzed - 1984

"Les Kobolds" - Clivages - 2010

"Mellotronic" - Implosion - 2004

"Out of Space 4" - Implosion - 2004

"Variations on Mellotronic's Theme" - Implosion - 2004

"Falling Rain Dance" - Implosion - 2004

"Rapt D'Abdallah" - Implosion - 2004

"Apesanteur" - Clivages - 2010

"Heatwave" - Heatwave - 1986

"Presage" - Uzed - 1984

"Dense" - Ceux du Dehors - 1981

"Straight Edge" - Clivages - 2010

 

Most of their material is stuff I can't listen to, too dark and meandering. But the above pieces I find highly enjoyable.

 

 

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2013 at 06:30
Art Bears is a bit inaccessible IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2013 at 06:26
Henry Cow isn't very accessible.... but I still dig it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 18:27
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:



Inaccessible prog?
Why not take a stab at Igor Wakhevitch? Now I am pretty into the weird stuff - the out-there sh*t that really makes your head spin.....but when I came across this French dude, I understood nothing. I felt like I was listening to a strange mix of TD's Zeit and Henry Cow from the other end of a telephone. It took me two years to get into, but now I am completely hooked though. As far as inaccessible goes - Igor is up there with the best of them.
This piece fx is actually one of his most accessible:




Does it change after the first 2:52?? Because that's all I could handle. Doesn't sound like a song to me as much as ambient sonic darkness. Not my cup of tea, but, that's just me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 18:07
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:



Inaccessible prog?
Why not take a stab at Igor Wakhevitch? Now I am pretty into the weird stuff - the out-there sh*t that really makes your head spin.....but when I came across this French dude, I understood nothing. I felt like I was listening to a strange mix of TD's Zeit and Henry Cow from the other end of a telephone. It took me two years to get into, but now I am completely hooked though. As far as inaccessible goes - Igor is up there with the best of them.
This piece fx is actually one of his most accessible:




Actually. This sounds great to my ears, but then again I'm the wrong guy to talk to about what is inaccessible or accessible because music like this is my accessible baby. ;)

Great track Dave and I will look into this artist more deeply. This particular track reminds me a bit of what Elliot Goldenthal did with the ALIEN 3 movie score, and a bit of CURRENT 93's dark, moody atmosphere textures that they are so well known for. :)

Cool track....and yes completely non accessible for most I would imagine. Lol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 17:56
I've mentioned this one before, but CURRENT 93's DOGS BLOOD RISING is not an easy listen...pretty scary sh*t.
Scariest record I've ever heard. Very eerie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 16:26
Can't remember seeing any RIO bands scheduled to play at the Keswick but I'll take your word for it. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:56
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

For me Univers Zero and RIO in general. 

You need to move to Montco to have your mind opened.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:22
For me Univers Zero and RIO in general. It's why I never really got into them or the genre as a whole. Thinking Plague is another band that comes to mind. I'm sure they are talented but so far I just haven't really gotten into that stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 11:23
Inaccessible prog?

Why not take a stab at Igor Wakhevitch? Now I am pretty into the weird stuff - the out-there sh*t that really makes your head spin.....but when I came across this French dude, I understood nothing. I felt like I was listening to a strange mix of TD's Zeit and Henry Cow from the other end of a telephone. It took me two years to get into, but now I am completely hooked though. As far as inaccessible goes - Igor is up there with the best of them.
This piece fx is actually one of his most accessible:


Edited by Guldbamsen - October 16 2013 at 11:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 11:23
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

 Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating.

Jazz is hardly just 'one thing', you know...it's an ocean.  More 'structured' jazz like Dave Brubeck's Quartet (and specifically the album Time Out) might just click for you.


I know that....the whole spectrum or concept of 'Music' is a gigantic ocean, but the Jazz sound like what Thelonious Monk and Miles Davis do on an extremely technical level gets a little too cramed and cacophany sounding. Brass instruments just schreeching away just doesn't do it for me, but I can understand the beauty and flow that some people may have for that kind of sound. I think the most i can take is King Crimson's 21st century schizoid where near the end of the song it's a full blown techy rock/jazz blow out! Lol. Very fast indeed. The limits of my taste if you will.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 11:14
Originally posted by The Acolyte The Acolyte wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

What's this "New Math"? LOL


Modern math rock i should say. I mean it has changed quite a bit in the last 10 years, but altogether a fairly new genre compared to most. Sorry. I know you know what I mean, but I should have been a bit more clear on taut description. :)

Wow mate, I haven't seen your signature before and I really do believe that liking Prog and The Smiths at the same time was a one man crazyness (That being me!!! jajajaja)...Clap
Returining to the post's theme, I haven't got into Zeuhl bands...I really have tried but no...some tech and extreme are not my cup of tea either...


Zeuhl takes some time to get used to. Tech Extream for me was far easier to appreciate faster than Zeuhl.
Let's just agree that 'Zeuhl' is one crazy animal of a genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 00:53
Seems like all Prog is inaccessible......according to this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 23:57
Improvised and free form Prog are the most inaccessible

Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - October 15 2013 at 23:57
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 20:53
I don't care for Metal or anything that emphasizes technical skill over everything else, like Dream Theater. I'm bored by speed and accuracy. Also most noise-rock or Industrial like Merzbow and (fill-in-the-blank). I'm also rather bored by most Post-Rock, like Godspeed you! Black Emperor. I'm annoyed by the awkward punctuation and word phrasing for the sake of it. I love it's declared origins, such as Talk Talk, but where it went I find boring. So much of the visual aspect is deliberately obtuse as well, kind of like skateboard art.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 16:43
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

What's this "New Math"? LOL


Modern math rock i should say. I mean it has changed quite a bit in the last 10 years, but altogether a fairly new genre compared to most. Sorry. I know you know what I mean, but I should have been a bit more clear on taut description. :)

Wow mate, I haven't seen your signature before and I really do believe that liking Prog and The Smiths at the same time was a one man crazyness (That being me!!! jajajaja)...Clap
Returining to the post's theme, I haven't got into Zeuhl bands...I really have tried but no...some tech and extreme are not my cup of tea either...
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