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smartpatrol 
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 Posted: November 04 2013 at 13:48 |
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Don't worry, man, we don't mind. Everyone needs a little psuedo-psychological breakdown (see what I did there?) every once in a while
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 13:53 |
 Smurph wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Smurph wrote:
I was going to post in "just for fun" but this is not for fun.
How does anyone here not hate everything? How does anyone feel anything positive about the direction our collective conscious mind is headed? How does anyone feel relaxed? What is morality? Are any of us moral? Is life really a gift? What about when your gluttonous Americanized existence does more harm than good for the planet? Does that make your life a plague?
What are we other than parasites? |
We are all individuals with the capacity for individual thoughts and perspectives. This has always been case and the internet has no bearing on this principle.
If your 'gluttonous Americanized lifestyle' is bothering you, then change it. No one is forcing anyone to get fat, under achieve and blindly agree with everything Rachel Maddow (sp)or whoever tells you.
We're not a plague on the Earth. Those who try to manipulate our minds with propoganda, wage wars under the ruse of national security or rig our economic system for failure for their own self gain are the plague. Don't let them make you feel guilty for driving a car or eating meat. Take control. Get a grip.
I'm not getting at you personally, btw..  |
Beautifully said.
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Yea that's probably the best thing to say to me.
I apologize to everyone for slightly freaking out. Kept asking myself these questions over and over and was unable to give any positive answers to myself due to the specific mindset. |
Many of us over think, (turns out even people I questioned if they even had a functioning brain over think at times). It's driven a good friend of mine to near suicide, and myself to countless sleepless nights, tears you name it.
Get a grip is honestly the best thing that can be said, period.You're right we all tend to victimize ourselves, to allow ourselves to feel badly. It's just no good though. I used to say "yeah but Brian you have to do this, dont wanna be like the mindless, petty, self absorbed dumb sheeple" but no...way too black and white. I can live in a middle ground and don't need to make myself more depressed than needed.
Edited by JJLehto - November 04 2013 at 13:55
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 13:59 |
Smurph wrote:
I was going to post in "just for fun" but this is not for fun.
How does anyone here not hate everything? How does anyone feel anything positive about the direction our collective conscious mind is headed? How does anyone feel relaxed? What is morality? Are any of us moral? Is life really a gift? What about when your gluttonous Americanized existence does more harm than good for the planet? Does that make your life a plague?
What are we other than parasites? |
I remember I did a similar thread a couple of years back, asking about
the sense of life... And this is one reply I will never forget:  Antoine passed away in December the same year...
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Smurph
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 14:09 |
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^Saved that image.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 14:09 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
Smurph wrote:
I was going to post in "just for fun" but this is not for fun.
How does anyone here not hate everything? How does anyone feel anything positive about the direction our collective conscious mind is headed? How does anyone feel relaxed? What is morality? Are any of us moral? Is life really a gift? What about when your gluttonous Americanized existence does more harm than good for the planet? Does that make your life a plague?
What are we other than parasites? |
I remember I did a similar thread a couple of years back, asking about the sense of life... And this is one reply I will never forget:
Antoine passed away in December the same year...
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Holy sh*t
wow
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tamijo
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 14:40 |
1/ don't smoke strong tobacco's if you want to lighten up ! 2/ life is what you make it, there is no true meaning, other than what you put in it yourself. 3/ there is no such thing as a bad day, make it good.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 15:28 |
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Every day six feet above ground instead of six feet below is a good day. Everything else is just distracting drivel.
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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lazland
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 15:49 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Every day six feet above ground instead of six feet below is a good day. Everything else is just distracting drivel. |
Wise words indeed 
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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sukmytoe
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 16:19 |
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I learned a long time ago that humanity sucks but having learned that I also learned to get on with things. Right now people are building home made bombs, some girl is being brutalised, a nutjob is on the prowl for a victim, a government is contemplating genocide - also right now there is a bird building a nest, a guy helping an elderly person across the street, a mother is suckling her child, a doctor is saving a life. You take the good with the bad - you see the sucky side of life because it's there but you look and you will find that there is beauty too and that beauty helps you get by. Don't get sucked in by the mess - look for the beauty because it's there.
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Luna
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 16:58 |
Smurph wrote:
How does anyone here not hate everything? |
I don't hate everything. I don't love everything. I don't anything everything. Hell, I don't even have a clue what "everything" could be. Maybe you mean life. Life simply is. Hating it doesn't get anyone very far. I understand your reasons for total dismay, but dwelling in them simply doesn't do any good. Sometimes you just have to take a break and relax.
Smurph wrote:
How does anyone feel anything positive about the direction our collective conscious mind is headed? |
I don't believe in anything like a collective consciousness, but I understand that you mean humanity as a whole. Honestly, things are pretty good lately. Poverty's down, slavery's down (in percentage, not numbers unfortunately), money could be better, but it's nothing unbearable. Let's think about America today: politicians who desire an office for presumably power and money. Sure, it sounds kind of sketchy. But let's go back to the 19th century. Where, if you didn't like your opponent, you just f**king shot them (Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr, Andrew Jackson...). Things are going slowly, but I believe what is happening is called progress.
Smurph wrote:
How does anyone feel relaxed? |
Ignorance. Knowledge isn't meant for everyone. It often proves itself to be a terrible burden.
Smurph wrote:
What is morality? Are any of us moral? |
Morality is basically peer pressure except it's seen positively. Honestly, I believe that you should do what's right for you. Morals are alright, but they don't apply in all situations and should not always be strictly followed. So I'd say that no one is truly moral, but there is nothing wrong with that because morals are defined by humans and humans are inherently flawed.
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Is life really a gift? |
In most cases, no. Like I've stated earlier, life just is. It's great a lot of the time and it's awful a lot of the time. We can almost never control this, but we can control whether or not we completely freak out and shut down over it. I make it sound like a bad thing to do, but sometimes it's necessary.
Slight detour to the suicide part of the discussion. I found Brian's post well-written and compelling, but I overall disagree with his interpretation of some things that we agree on. Suicide is selfish. I agree, but this doesn't make it inherently wrong. Selfishness is required in many aspects of life and being selfless is having no identity. Would loved ones be dismayed? I believe they would be, but this is your life. As harsh as it sounds, you never asked to be here and the door is always there.
The problem is that the door is locked once you leave. And to emphasize: you never come back.
Smurph wrote:
What are we other than parasites? |
We create.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 17:09 |
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Go meet some girls or something, man
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Smurph
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 17:31 |
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<3 You cam.
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Smurph
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 17:37 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Go meet some girls or something, man
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smartpatrol
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 17:39 |
Luna wrote:
Cam's post |
possibly the best post Ive seen on this site
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presdoug
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:34 |
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Our cups are half full, not half empty.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:54 |
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Dear Mr. Penis-hands,
It may interest you to know that both Russia and Mexico, according to some very reliable gossip-based statistics, have overtaken the U.S. in obesity. Actually, America is, if you'll forgive the term, 'progressive'. In fact it is one of the most evolutionary cultures in history, which does not make it better or worse, superior or doomed, generous or gluttonous.
Further, marijuana is a wonderful thing even though it causes mild speculative panic attacks.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:56 |
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Oh, and sukmytoe seems to know where it's at.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: November 04 2013 at 20:40 |
presdoug wrote:
Our cups are half full, not half empty.
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mine is empty
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 02:17 |
Padraic wrote:
The answer to your question is alcohol. If that doesn't work, try Xanax. |
Brand X has a Xanax Taxi...  And if that doesn't work you could always take an elevator up to the moon.
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 05 2013 at 02:20
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 10:28 |
As several people have already said there are many problems here on planet earth with human actions but there's always hope and perhaps in time we will get our act together.
J Krishnamurti once said, 'Nothing will change for the better (regarding human action and cooperation) unless there is a fundamental change in the very nature of human consciousness.'
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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