Why did Roger Waters never get beyond The Wall?

Chris S wrote: ^ Gilmour's next album was scheduled for end of September according to Polly Samson.

Gilmour's tour starts in Croatia september 12, so the album will probably be out by then.

I have tickets to the Royal Albert Hall the 24:th. Yay!!!!

He ran out of decent ideas.......?

Right on, mosh.  The Floyd after Syd were a group and the music reflected that....it started to go south when that Roger and Rick magic peaked on Dark Side.  Wish and Animals were great albums but, to me, some of Rick's parts drag a bit, especially on Animals - like Roger said, if Rick had brought some of that stuff he saved for those solo records that nobody listened to, thing might have been different. 

Wright's solo stuff is at least interesting, especially Wet Dreams (Mel Collins!), but like the first Gilmore solo record it is missing something.....but that could be said of all Floyd solo albums, including the Final Cut (that second side could use a bit of "music").  Gilmore has never sold more.....Island was a #1 record all over Europe and hit top 5 in the US.  While I think it's a bot of a snooze and feeds those Floyd fans who've hit a certain age (thus the Somnambulant prog jab), you cannot argue its success....or that Dave hasn't given up his signature bluesy spacy style.  Even the Gdansk cd/dvd package sold a ton, something Roger has failed to do despite releasing albums full of intriguing idea, if not intriguing music.  I know people who put Island on as background music and play it all day long; I know others - married folks - whose non-prog fan wives actually love the album, so it becomes de facto listening for the couple.  This must grate at Roger - Dave is selling by releasing by-the-numbers guitar albums (not bad stuff, just lifeless), and Roger is still pushing forward.....I sat with a friend thru the first part of his opera and....meh, just as lifeless as Island but at least he Floydian sound effects wake you up once in a while. 

Edited by Intruder - July 19 2015 at 19:05

Nothing wrong with About Face as far as I'm concerned : a good record from a great guitarist. What were you expecting, a Floyd record?

Intruder wrote: There's an Uncut magazine with Roger from 2000 where he made that remark about Wright's solo stuff.  There was some great stuff on Wet Dreams - even Snowy White doing his best Gilmore.  Waters felt if he'd brought some of that music to the Floyd, then things would've been different.    Gilmore's About Face has a few great moments.....even a radio "hit", but the whole thing sounds like he's trying too hard for airplay.

I never knew Waters had those opinions about Wright... and that puts his grudge against Wright in a slightly better light for me. At least I do agree with him in this matter. I used to think it was Waters who wanted to take control of the band and the writing of the music, even though I did read about him complaining that Wright and Gilmour were not contributing enough. Now, even though I do find Wet Dream an enjoyable album, indeed if Wright had offered the music for Floyd, and it was used in The Wall, this album might have ended up being a really wonderful record... for I do feel that it lacks something... and that something is exactly more Wright (and even some more Gilmour).

No one in their serious mind can believe that Gilmour's new album is better than anything Waters made after he left PF, seriously

Everyone thinks problems between Roger Waters and David Gilmour surfaced around 'The Wall.' In truth, friction already existed during the run-up to 1969's 'Ummagumma.' Each member had been tasked with constructing a solo contribution. When Gilmour asked Waters for some lyrical help, his response was a simple "no."
hahahaha!!!  Waters is very naughty lol

Chris S wrote: Dellinger wrote: Intruder wrote: There's an Uncut magazine with Roger from 2000 where he made that remark about Wright's solo stuff.  There was some great stuff on Wet Dreams - even Snowy White doing his best Gilmore.  Waters felt if he'd brought some of that music to the Floyd, then things would've been different.    Gilmore's About Face has a few great moments.....even a radio "hit", but the whole thing sounds like he's trying too hard for airplay. I never knew Waters had those opinions about Wright... and that puts his grudge against Wright in a slightly better light for me. At least I do agree with him in this matter. I used to think it was Waters who wanted to take control of the band and the writing of the music, even though I did read about him complaining that Wright and Gilmour were not contributing enough. Now, even though I do find Wet Dream an enjoyable album, indeed if Wright had offered the music for Floyd, and it was used in The Wall, this album might have ended up being a really wonderful record... for I do feel that it lacks something... and that something is exactly more Wright (and even some more Gilmour).   IMO The Wall lacks nothing :-)

Barbu wrote: Kati wrote: No one in their serious mind can believe that Gilmour's new album is better than anything Waters made after he left PF, seriously Welcome to the bad 80's here: David Gilmour - Rattle That Lock (Audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHP7l0EaouM I won't listen to this track until I buy the record and I'll take About Face over Radio Kaos any day.