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Modrigue ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 1127 |
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Hello
I think these 2 EPs from Tangerine Dream are the same record: The tracklist is identical, as proven by these websites: The correct EP name seems to be "Das Mädchen Auf Der Treppe": BTW, I wrote a review for one of these discs. Is it possible to merge reviews & ratings without losses? Thanks
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ Thanks, José, I think we can make it.
Hope this weekend I'll sort it out and explain how. Not earlier because I'm damn busy during this work week.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Quinino ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1103
I'll now raise the question of the long time semi-lost third album of PD: From what I reckon it has become a sort of phoenix, underwenting several rebirths and confusing our minds to the point of having now 3 (three) references on the discography (and many more out there, legal and illegal), each with its own cover but intrinsically the same contents (bonus tracks aside) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5719 1. Trafalgar (3:08) 2. I Love You Still (4:02) 3. Jenny (4:05) 4. It's All for You (3:47) 5. Suicide (2:01) 6. While You Were Out (2:33) 7. Only You (4:28) 8. Today I Feel (3:03) 9. Painted Ladies (3:18) 10. Falling in Love (3:21) Total Time: 33:46 Now, with different title but same original 10 tracks plus bonus http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16132 1. Only You (4:33) 2. Painted Ladies (3:22) 3. Falling In Love (3:27) 4. Today (3:08) 5. Trafalger (3:10) 6. I Love You Still (4:04) 7. Jenny (4:07) 8. It's All For You (3:50) 9. Suicide (2:03) 10. While You Were Out (2:38) bonus tracks: 11. Song Dance (6:29) 12. Of Once And Future Kings (6:50) 13. Natchez Trace (4:18) 14. A Little Better (2:18) 15. A Look In Your Eyes (4:27) 16. Julia (2:55) 17. She Came Shining (4:37) 18. Did You See Him Cry (6:06) 19. Theme From Subway Sue (5:40) 20. I Wait For You (1:44) Total Time: 79:46 And recent new addition, same situation but remastered and plus different bonus tracks http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47549 01. Good Bye Trafalgar (3:27) 02. Falling in Love (3:24) 03. Only You (4:31) 04. Painted Ladies (3:19) 05. I Love You Still (4:06) 06. Jenny (4:09) 07. Today (3:05) 08. Stop Short (Studio Outtake) [Bonus Track] (2:38) 09. It's All for You (3:50) 10. Suicide (2:02) 11. While You Were Out (2:51) 12. Falling in Love (Alternative Mix) [Bonus Track] (3:19) 13. Julia (D. Surkamp Acoustic Version 2007) [Bonus Track] (3:05) 14. She Came Shining (Live 2012) [Bonus Track] (5:36) 15. Fast Gun (Live 2011) [Bonus Track] (3:21) 16. She Breaks Like a Morning Sky (Live 2011) [Bonus Track] (5:27) 17. Paris (Live 2011) [Bonus Track] (4:45) 18. Good Bye Trafalgar (Live 2012) [Bonus Track] (3:10) 19. Only You (Live 2012) [Bonus Track] (6:47) Total Time 1:12:44 IMO we could give some order to this profusion of releases and maybe unify them under a single entry with enough references to accomodate the differences - or at least put them under the same roof, be it studio or compilation or whatever, the present way is confusing. And look here for explanations http://pavlovsdogband.tripod.com/pavlov6.html Edited by Quinino - February 11 2016 at 09:32 |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ You're quite a long time here, I think enough to understand how PA works.
We can like or dislike something (for example, I would prefer to have all Manfred Mann's bands/projects under MANFRED MANN), but there are genre teams and admins who decide to which category bands/artists belong. This thread is called "Duplicated entries" and its purpose is to report albums listed more than once in PA database. Then admins delete reported albums (only admins have the right to delete albums). There are no duplications in Jeff Beck's discography, so you chose wrong thread (though that's not the point). If you'd like to make changes in Jeff's discography, please contact members of Jazz-Rock/Fusion Team, it's their competence. |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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katatonia ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 05 2012 Location: Iran Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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you didn't get what I mean,I'm desperate now.dude,the first 4 albums are THE JEFF BECK GROUP,not jeff beck,isn't it clear?
![]() and Beck,Bogert,Appice is a project itself,again not jeff beck.progarchives is not a grocey store :) when the page is named Jeff Beck,it should remain jeff beck,not everything containing the name of jeff beck.so why don't we include Altamont and Karma in SWs page?and for manfred mann,MANFRED MANN CHAPTER THREE,MANFRED MANN'S EARTH BAND and his sole project are seperate stuff that's the way it should be.
yet,if you wanna show that your right cuz you've been here a decade before me,well,that's another story.that's why I don't show up much in the forum ![]() |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ The site policy is: if the artist is here, the entire discography should be here (there are few exceptions though).
We don't sort albums by their progginess. You can describe in reviews how poor and 0% prog some Beck albums are. But nobody will delete albums.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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katatonia ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 05 2012 Location: Iran Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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I came in to talk about Jeff Beck PA page.some albums are really extra and shouldn't be here.the first four acts [Truth/Beck-ola/Rough and Ready/Jeff Beck Group] are obviously related to jeff beck group,not jeff beck solely,and doesn't belong in here in million years,not even 10% prog,and the worst is (Beck,Bogert and Appice),donno how it can even relate to music,let alone prog,it's a real ridiculous piece of record,so the first 5s should be removed,I know some will say no,cuz members have written a review about'em.but by what costs?some records completely unproggy and not beck's,they're for his projects,not his.BLOW BY BLOW is his real debut.and later,the collaboration with The Big Town Playboys,it's mostly theirs,not Beck's,what's more its a tribute album,not a studio one
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The Bearded Bard ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 24 2012 Location: Behind the Sun Status: Offline Points: 12859 |
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^ Yeah, this is another case (Uriah Heep's debut and it's s/t US edition is another one) where two basically identical albums were added by the site's founder, probably in the very early days of the site, before it was decided that just one submission was needed in these cases and/or what should be considered a duplicate entry, and therefore not eligible for addition. Anyway, that is my guess as to why both of those editions were added.
Furthermore, as in the case of UH, both albums has reviews, which makes the delition of one of them a real hassle, as reviews can not be moved, they must be saved by the reviewer (of which many are no longer active members, and therefore not easy to get in touch with) and re-submitted to the other album, or else they'll be deleted with the album, so I think the best thing in these cases is to just leave it as it is.
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Glimpse ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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The 1985 reissue of Can's 1979 self-titled album, "Inner Space", is listed as a separate release.
Original release: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3519
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ Thanks, I'll report this to admins.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Glimpse ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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The Papir / Electric Moon collaboration "The Papermoon Sessions" is listed twice, once on Papir's page and once on Electric Moon's.
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DamoXt7942 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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The Bearded Bard ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 24 2012 Location: Behind the Sun Status: Offline Points: 12859 |
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^ Ha! Didn't notice that before. Will ask admin to delete the 2013 digital re-release. Thanks!
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Glimpse ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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The 2013 digital re-release of the 2000 Pallas album, Live Our Lives, is listed as a separate release.
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ B-sides are different, so 2 entries is OK.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Glimpse ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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These two Eloy singles are the same release, except in different formats:
The tracks on the Maxi version are a bit longer, however they aren't different enough to justify two seperate entries. If anything, the info from the 12" Maxi version should be merged with the 7" version.
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14889 |
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It's an artist that I'm exploring in this period. I like the sound of the Oud (I have one at home).
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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DamoXt7942 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^ Done.
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14889 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47186
An idiot has duplicated this entry....please delete ![]() (I don't now why my browser didn't show it before)
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8046 |
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^ Diego, you know, "guys" can't delete albums. Please send PM to any Admin you like.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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