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Mortte
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 00:37 |
I have to take both, because I love both so much!
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Cristi
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 00:45 |
verslibre wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Seventh Star was meant to be a Iommi solo album but that's when label idiots interfere, you get a "Black Sabbath featuring Tony Iommi" as the artist. |
I don't mind it being under the Sabbath banner. Quite the underrated record! |
Haven't you seen the album cover? It says "Black Sabbath featuring Tony Iommi". It sounds like Black Sabbath had a collaboration with a musician named Tony Iommi.
This is a wtf moment in music, if there ever was one.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:28 |
Iommi is a better metal guitar player, but Gilmour is a better all-around player, so Gilmour.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:37 |
I’m saying ‘both’. Two of my favourites. Not to mention, totally different to each other.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:40 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Iommi is a better metal guitar player, but Gilmour is a better all-around player, so Gilmour.
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Why do people forget that when Black Sabbath started, there was no such thing as "metal". People forget how unique and original BS was in the 70s.
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:15 |
I do like many of the early iconic riffs that Iommi came up with for Sabbath but overall Gilmour provided more listening pleasure for me.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:57 |
bah... missed the rim completely there Doc....
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ClosetothSupperBrick
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 13:40 |
I love both, but it's hard to choose someone over Gilmour in any two-way guitarist poll, he's probably no. 2 of all time imo, after Page
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:38 |
micky wrote:
bah... missed the rim completely there Doc.... |
Too many blood orange ales today or simply not acerbic enough...? ;)
Love early Sabbath but Gilmour is a superb and subtle player...Iommi just isn't in the same league...he's ok for what Sabbath did but no depth imho...and please don't bring up those handful of quiet tracks he did,,,they were not all that memorable.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:44 |
lmao .. huh...
Doc .....well educated.. Micky... knuckle dragging brute
you can redeem yourself by pulling a Cristi on me (© Micky 2018) and explaining what the hell ascrebic means.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:48 |
micky wrote:
lmao .. huh...
Doc .....well educated.. Micky... knuckle dragging brute
you can redeem yourself by pulling a Cristi on me (© Micky 2018) and explaining what the hell ascrebic means.
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"pulling a Cristi"? what's that? LOL
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:50 |
*cue the doctor to explain*
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Cristi
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:52 |
micky wrote:
*cue the doctor to explain* |
everyone's mysterious today
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:55 |
huh... I am like a cheap novel.. easy to read... impossible to put down
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:12 |
acerbic "his acerbic wit" (especially of a comment or style of speaking) sharp and forthright.
"..a cheap novel''....................... I love it. ;)
Edited by dr wu23 - March 04 2018 at 16:14
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:19 |
ahhh... I thought that is what you meant... thanks for not leaving me hanging there Doc.. I thought I was going to have to beg to have you pull a Cristi on me... (© Micky 2018)
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Cristi
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:23 |
micky wrote:
ahhh... I thought that is what you meant... thanks for not leaving me hanging there Doc.. I thought I was going to have to beg to have you pull a Cristi on me... (© Micky 2018) |
"pulling a Cristi on someone"? I must have missed it. I do not know if that is good or I am doing something bad, wrong.
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:24 |
For Mick.....Btw....I'm currently enjoying Ys (one of your favorites) on my Shure headphones as we play these reindeer games.
:)
Edited by dr wu23 - March 04 2018 at 16:25
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:31 |
dr wu23 wrote:
For Mick.....Btw....I'm currently enjoying Ys (one of your favorites) on my Shure headphones as we play these reindeer games.
:)
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oh hell yeah man...
still sort of butthurt I didn't get the definitive review of that album in... lord knows I might be its single biggest fan.. but I caught up in the lust of it kicking curve and drop dead smile... and forgot the warning to throw a prophylactic on first and be safe for she ain't clean man....
Il Balleto di Bronzo - Ys Il Balleto di Bronzo's Ys is an unequivocal classic, and stands as one of the very best albums out of Italy, and perhaps among the finest examples of dark, heavy progressive. However, newbies to the Italian scene might want to approach this one with caution, since it can be tougher to get into than some of the other popular Italian works. This was one of the first Italian albums I got, and I was frankly unprepared for it. The pyrotechnic keyboards, thundering rhythms, the angular, punishing guitars and the abrasive vocals made for a work that I found initially dense and unrewarding. For an album that many have hailed as the best progressive rock album of all time, I was a little disappointed. Of course, I've come around by now, and certainly hold this album in high regard as one of the jewels of Italian prog, but that personal anecdote should serve as a caveat for those expecting to be blown away immediately, especially if not particularly predisposed towards the more dissonant branches of progressive rock.Still, Ys is a complete monster. The music on here is thundering, cacophonous and simply unrelenting in its sheer, brute force. This also stands as one of the best keyboard-based albums of all time; Gianni Leone employs the full range of classic keys, from Hammond, Moog and Mellotron to piano and harpsichord, pitting them in savage, fiery duels that will absolutely tear your head off. These are contrasted against violent guitar riffs and surging basslines, making for a chaotic, mindbendingly complex ride. The music is punctuated by Leone's caterwauling operatic vocals, which are perhaps the toughest part of the album to get into, but are eventually endearing and nothing if not emotional. Take "Introduzione", an absolute beast of a cut that builds from volcanic climax to climax, as Hammonds and Moog duel it out for supremacy. Take the opening riff of "Epilogo," with its brilliant arpeggiated theme that simply bursts at the seams with intensity. The entire album is a series of mindblowing passages, with few spots of respite to be found. An indispensable Italian classic, without a doubt. |
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micky
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:32 |
Cristi wrote:
micky wrote:
ahhh... I thought that is what you meant... thanks for not leaving me hanging there Doc.. I thought I was going to have to beg to have you pull a Cristi on me... (© Micky 2018) |
"pulling a Cristi on someone"? I must have missed it. I do not know if that is good or I am doing something bad, wrong. |
hahah.. don't worry.. you did good. You've achieved a bit of forum immortality.. and not in a bad way.
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