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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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If Germany is out... If Sweden is in... ... Then... ... WHERE IS THE BALL???
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34090 |
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SWEDEN IS INN
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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GERMANY OUT!!!
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18643 |
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Hi,
I was thinking that the quota of miracles for this WC was about over, until Argentina pulled the rabbit out of the hat! Should be an interesting game, but I would not be surprised to see Argentina pull another rabbit and take France out Saturday!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21616 |
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Argentina got lucky but a couple of gorgeous goals.
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Morningrise ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 2766 |
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![]() Edited by Morningrise - June 26 2018 at 16:52 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21616 |
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Accidentally off upper shoulder would probably be a goal but its hard to image a player deliberately positioning himself to accidentally divert the ball into the net, it's such a low probability I think we're safe :) The jumping for a header without raising your arms is an interesting one, clearly its not possible but they've been calling it this was for year so that players don't 'accidentally' leave their hands in the air and deliberately block shot, how do you tell intent? They need to be aware of the risk and play accordingly as referee's are going to call that all day.
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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Disillusionment with Polish team's performance.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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For me, (and I accept this is pedantic) more than just Aspas' arm was offside and the linesman also clearly thought so (as he raised his flag despite Pierluigi Collina's dictat not to flag borderline off-sides to prevent goal scoring opportunities being converted) BTW what would the call have been if the ball had deflected accidentally off Aspas' upper shoulder and into the net? However, can you jump into the air to contest a header without raising your arms for leverage? (by imitating Punk's dance craze 'the Pogo?'
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21616 |
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Overall I think VAR has been successful so far, it has mostly corrected wrong decisions and if it cuts down the grappling in the penalty area on corners I'll be very happy. There has been a subsequent increase in penalties but the players and coaches will adapt to that and stop doing the stuff they used to get away with.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21616 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18643 |
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We found the problem! No German technology on VAR! ![]()
I think that it's mostly growing pains with VAR. And that too many officials don't like the intervention of the TV, but then, they are not sitting in the booth watching what the fans can see that he/she and their assistants can not ... specially the offsides situation, that is the most abused, and the one that needs to be addressed differently ... I like the idea from the old days, that if the pass came from beyond the half way line, "offsides" could not be called. It was a sort of "unwritten" rule in Brazil when I started playing. In the end, VAR is going to win, since the TV, more often than not will support it. And the officials that ignore it and do not use it, will find themselves out on the street, which in my book, is a good thing. I do not see that instant replay hurts any game in America, and FIFA making an issue of it, is just being stubborn and stupid and not watching the games on TV now and then to see the horrible mistakes and the calls that were ignored. I hate to see a WC game change in the end, because of it. My take, and I did not watch the games (no TV), is that both Spain and Portugal could have gotten pasted, and in some ways should have been. Many of the "low level" teams are doing well and showing folks that they are not left overs ... and that is a great sight ... and the next WC in 4 years, will be very interesting because of it. BTW, I do not think that the USA will make it again. They are STILL not bringing up youngsters, via MLS, and many of them are leaving for Europe to sit on the bench. Not a great way to move "forward". I kinda think that Italy is going through the same thing as well. No youngsters coming up and while have Buffon on the game is nice and he is very good, it really means that a youngster is not getting better and having a chance ... guess what hurt the American team? No one to replace the ineffective players!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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Eh...
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21616 |
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On the images I saw the only part of Aspas' that was offside was his arm which isn't used in offside decisions as it can't legally play the ball, therefore onside & they got the call right. On Iran's penalty his handball wasn't deemed to be deliberate, it doesn't have to be, it was in 'an unnatural position' which is the other way a handball can be given. His arm was raised above his head and therefore it was the correct decision. I thought both calls were good calls.
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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I thought both Spain and Portugal were a tad fortunate to draw their matches with Morocco and Iran respectively (any German technical staff out there might want to look that up....) To the letter of the law Aspas' late equaliser was offside (look at where his upper body is, not his feet) To be fair to Portugal, Iran's penalty award was ridiculous as handball has to be deemed deliberate (Soares couldn't get out of the way of the ball's trajectory at such close range, he wasn't even looking at the ball never mind trying to deflect it to safety....) Like I mentioned in an earlier post, VAR will never remove the need for an official to make a judgement call all said and done. Enjoying the tournament so far, loads of incident (but too many soft penalties bring awarded) |
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34090 |
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Come on Uruguai
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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^The Harlem Shake updated.
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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Panama's sole contribution to this World Cup? (Attempting to be the first team in history to finish 3rd in a football match)
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Now now, there there. Like father like son.
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Shake & bake.
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