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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^ Ah, another closet psychedelic junkie! Welcome to the club!
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15662 |
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Having seen Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets on Monday evening (lots of fun!) I was reminded that actually Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive are really a major source of what I see as "my kind of music"; apart from the Beatles' Tomorrow Never Knows, nothing did more for my taste historically than these two songs; this marvellous combination of experimentation, sound exploration and solid rock, rhythmic structure and chaos brought together in new unique ways. Astronomy Domine is such an iconic opener. For this alone Piper already cannot be praised enough. I also love love love Pow R Toc H, so that's the three longest tracks then. I couldn't connect well to many of their shorter more flimsy songs for a long time but I warm up to some of them over time, for example Lucifer Sam and Bike were just such delights in Nick Mason's show, and I appreciate the versatility of that album.
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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Discovered this gem back in ‘87 as a stoned 15 y.o. !! Still lovin’ it as a sober 46 y.o. Man, Rick’s Farfisa is magnificent.
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Like many, I didn't disccover early Floyd until after becoming enamored with Dark Side/WYWH. Knowing this was a significantly a different group/different sound, and not being specifically a psychedelia fan, I had no expectations going in. I rather took to it though. And while it's not one of my faves, it's still a worthy part of my collection.
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AZF ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 1079 |
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I always had More down as Pink Floyd's weakest album.
Syd's songwriting improved on his solo albums but they were hamstrung by woeful production. Piper At The Gates Of Dawn listened to out of context is ok. I can leave a lot of stuff off the second side. But the first side is an accomplishment. Further than The Beatles did. If it had actually been released when it was recorded (and produced by a more attentive producer) Soft Machine would have been regarded as having the better debut. |
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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But anyway it´s great title, really now think it´s kind of children´s music as most of the psychedelic music is although children can´t understand it (at least I didn´t when I was a child).
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13429 |
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Actually, "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" is a chapter title of Kenneth Grahame's children's book The Wind in the Willows. Unfortunately, Mr. Toad does not make an appearance on the album either.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12887 |
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^ Indeed. Too bad they play no pipes in the album.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34099 |
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It has a very good title aslo, very mystical and fairytale like. Is the piper, the pied piper of Hamelin
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5010 |
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I love this album. For a long time Animals was my favourite Pink Floyd album but in recent times I've developed a new appreciation for Piper at the Gates of Dawn to the extent that it challenges Animals as my favourite Pink Floyd album.
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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for the longest time my least favorite classic Floyd album.. the MTV Nostaligia driven sh*t they did post Roger doesn't count. I simply never got the 'englishness' of it. The whimsy and silliness of it. Where they let the instruments do the talking.. and just played hell yeah man.. I could dig it. Still really don't today.. but listenable.. and Lucifer Sam really is a killer little song...and did finally get bumped by The Final Cut for least favorite Floyd album.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12887 |
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^ I didn't know that. But I guess that's not so surprising given the oportunities that studio tech give the bands. Actually, I have read about this sort of things being done with live recordings too.
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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About Interstellar Overdrive I was really surprised it was actually a mix of two different takes. Before I read about that I had always thought they had played it whole through and just overdubbed some parts into it.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12887 |
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It's not really among my favourite Floyd albums... though of course that still makes it at least a good album. Astronomy Domine is indeed among my favourite songs from them, though, and I do like some other songs on it. Interstellar Overdrive has been a rather frustrating one, because I do love that opening riff, but most of the song is just psychedelic jamming that I can't fully get into... however, one of the live versions on the new early years box-sets really fix it for me... slightly changed, but just enough to make me enjoy that middle passage very well indeed (and just about the same applies to Por R Toc H, which I hadn't been able to get into until I found one of the live versions on those albums).
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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Oh God I can´t understand people´s will to use "overrated"-word these days. But I can understand Piper is not for everybody´s tastes. It was also really hard to digest at first after been so much excited about Dark Side of the Moon.
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67-71 Floyd saved me this summer. such a treasure.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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philipemery ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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I enjoy Piper At the Gates. In no way do I think it is their third greatest (in my book that goes to The Wall, behind Meddle and Dark Side of the Moon). But it is not something I would vehemently argue against.
I find it to be a very significant album, and would listen to it day and night if given the option (especially over Saucerfull of Secrets, More or the godawful Ummagumma, or what I consider the worst output by Floyd... Obscured By Clouds). Piper is an album though I feel is criminally underrated in their discography, and I think gets far too overlooked. Honestly, it pains me that I see Saucerfull get far more attention nowadays. My favorite songs on it are Astronomy Domine, Interstellar Overdrive, Bike, Matilda Mother, and Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk. All great work. Barrett's work would become far to ignored by the world in later years, I feel. His solo work is well worth a listen btw. |
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But the sun is eclipsed by the moon. -- Pink Floyd
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13429 |
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Lucifer Sam, Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Over Drive are great. And it seems I come back to the same concept each time I listen to any album from that time period: that if the band relies too heavily on psychedelia, the result is invariably uneven, with a few really splendid songs I still listen to. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one such album. Which is why I prefer The Doors, Hendrix, The Beatles, and even the Moody Blues and Procol Harum from the same time period. Less reliance on psychedelia, more rounded albums of songs that stretch boundaries and touch on many genres.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20712 |
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^Uh...I never said anything about how proggy it is...perhaps you are getting that from his review...but nevertheless there's nothing 'fresh' about Barrett's acid tinged silly pop songs imho that others weren't doing then and better...try the Beatles for one.
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