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    Posted: September 26 2018 at 06:45
^ Ah, another closet psychedelic junkie! Welcome to the club! Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2018 at 06:13
Having seen Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets on Monday evening (lots of fun!) I was reminded that actually Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive are really a major source of what I see as "my kind of music"; apart from the Beatles' Tomorrow Never Knows, nothing did more for my taste historically than these two songs; this marvellous combination of experimentation, sound exploration and solid rock, rhythmic structure and chaos brought together in new unique ways. Astronomy Domine is such an iconic opener. For this alone Piper already cannot be praised enough. I also love love love Pow R Toc H, so that's the three longest tracks then. I couldn't connect well to many of their shorter more flimsy songs for a long time but I warm up to some of them over time, for example Lucifer Sam and Bike were just such delights in Nick Mason's show, and I appreciate the versatility of that album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2018 at 06:06
Discovered this gem back in ‘87 as a stoned 15 y.o. !! Still lovin’ it as a sober 46 y.o. Man, Rick’s Farfisa is magnificent.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fischman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2018 at 12:02
Like many, I didn't disccover early Floyd until after becoming enamored with Dark Side/WYWH.  Knowing this was a significantly a different group/different sound, and not being specifically a psychedelia fan, I had no expectations going in.  I rather took to it though.  And while it's not one of my faves, it's still a worthy part of my collection.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AZF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2018 at 04:22
I always had More down as Pink Floyd's weakest album.
Syd's songwriting improved on his solo albums but they were hamstrung by woeful production.
Piper At The Gates Of Dawn listened to out of context is ok. I can leave a lot of stuff off the second side. But the first side is an accomplishment. Further than The Beatles did.
If it had actually been released when it was recorded (and produced by a more attentive producer) Soft Machine would have been regarded as having the better debut.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2018 at 22:31
But anyway it´s great title, really now think it´s kind of children´s music as most of the psychedelic music is although children can´t understand it (at least I didn´t when I was a child).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2018 at 21:23
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

It has a very good title aslo, very mystical and fairytale like. Is the piper, the pied piper of Hamelin

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

^ Indeed. Too bad they play no pipes in the album.

Actually, "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" is a chapter title of Kenneth Grahame's children's book The Wind in the Willows. Unfortunately, Mr. Toad does not make an appearance on the album either. 
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^ Indeed. Too bad they play no pipes in the album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2018 at 05:33
It has a very good title aslo, very mystical and fairytale like. Is the piper, the pied piper of Hamelin
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2018 at 04:14
I love this album. For a long time Animals was my favourite Pink Floyd album but in recent times I've developed a new appreciation for Piper at the Gates of Dawn to the extent that it challenges Animals as my favourite Pink Floyd album.
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2018 at 22:05
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

 
 
What all the others think about this Floyd-debut?

for the longest time my least favorite classic Floyd album.. the MTV Nostaligia driven sh*t they did post Roger doesn't count. I simply never got the 'englishness' of it. The whimsy and silliness of it. Where they let the instruments do the talking.. and just played hell yeah man.. I could dig it.

Still really don't today.. but listenable.. and Lucifer Sam really is a killer little song...and did finally get bumped by The Final Cut for least favorite Floyd album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2018 at 21:24
^ I didn't know that. But I guess that's not so surprising given the oportunities that studio tech give the bands. Actually, I have read about this sort of things being done with live recordings too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2018 at 14:42
About Interstellar Overdrive I was really surprised it was actually a mix of two different takes. Before I read about that I had always thought they had played it whole through and just overdubbed some parts into it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 22:06
It's not really among my favourite Floyd albums... though of course that still makes it at least a good album. Astronomy Domine is indeed among my favourite songs from them, though, and I do like some other songs on it. Interstellar Overdrive has been a rather frustrating one, because I do love that opening riff, but most of the song is just psychedelic jamming that I can't fully get into... however, one of the live versions on the new early years box-sets really fix it for me... slightly changed, but just enough to make me enjoy that middle passage very well indeed (and just about the same applies to Por R Toc H, which I hadn't been able to get into until I found one of the live versions on those albums).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 22:02
Oh God I can´t understand people´s will to use "overrated"-word these days. But I can understand Piper is not for everybody´s tastes. It was also really hard to digest at first after been so much excited about Dark Side of the Moon.
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67-71 Floyd saved me this summer. such a treasure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 18:51
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

My thoughts about it today?

Couldn't care less.
How about tomorrow then? Wink

Until the next listen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote philipemery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 18:14
I enjoy Piper At the Gates. In no way do I think it is their third greatest (in my book that goes to The Wall, behind Meddle and Dark Side of the Moon). But it is not something I would vehemently argue against.

I find it to be a very significant album, and would listen to it day and night if given the option (especially over Saucerfull of Secrets, More or the godawful Ummagumma, or what I consider the worst output by Floyd... Obscured By Clouds).

Piper is an album though I feel is criminally underrated in their discography, and I think gets far too overlooked. Honestly, it pains me that I see Saucerfull get far more attention nowadays.

My favorite songs on it are Astronomy Domine, Interstellar Overdrive, Bike, Matilda Mother, and Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk.

All great work. Barrett's work would become far to ignored by the world in later years, I feel. His solo work is well worth a listen btw.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 16:47
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

One can't underestimate Piper's important to the genre of Psychedelic Space Rock with Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Over Drive being the catalysts, imo. I could listen to those two songs forever. The Barrett penned acid-folky numbers never really moved me but really rung a bell with British and European audiences and still do, I'm sure. And of course there's Bike which I want played constantly at my funeral. There's no other way to cast off the gloominess of such a gathering than that incredibly quirky song! ;)

Lucifer Sam, Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Over Drive are great. And it seems I come back to the same concept each time I listen to any album from that time period: that if the band relies too heavily on psychedelia, the result is invariably uneven, with a few really splendid songs I still listen to. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one such album. Which is why I prefer The Doors, Hendrix, The Beatles, and even the Moody Blues and Procol Harum from the same time period. Less reliance on psychedelia, more rounded albums of songs that stretch boundaries and touch on many genres.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2018 at 15:54
^Uh...I never said anything about how proggy it is...perhaps you are getting that from his review...but nevertheless there's nothing 'fresh' about Barrett's acid tinged silly pop songs imho that others weren't doing then and better...try the Beatles for one.
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