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    Posted: September 24 2018 at 23:39
Hello, im in search of some good experimental prog. Ive been really into a certain sound in prog that i only come across every now and then and Im just looking for any recomendations. I find myself craving to hear something like Larks Tongues in Aspic and Part the Second by maudlin of the well. A more abstract sound with genre bending and a tone more on the serious side of things. King Crimson has perfected this sound with Larks and Islands, but some other gems are Per Un Amico by PFM, Grace for Drowning by Steven Wilson, Maudlin of the Wells discography and The Seer - Swans or The Golden Communion - Thighpaulsandra (last 2 being much more experimental, less prog). If anyone knows what I mean and have some albums/artists that might fit my description, any recomendations are appreciated. 
Note: metal or jazz or any genre works
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I forgot to mention, Pink Floyd and Kayo Dot are also excellent examples of this 
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I believe you would like Finnish band called Circle, at least some of their stuff.
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They look promising. Could you recommend an album or song to start since their discographies th is very large? Thanks
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My favourite is Miljard, But its their most ambient-album. Pori might be good starter.
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Circle members are big krautrock-fans and they call their music also krautrock. So if you like them, I recommend you to check out Can & Faust, two of the greatest krautrock bands. Cans Future Days may be great starter, Faust IV from Faust. And Faust is REALLY experimental!
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Try "Art Zoyd", especially their first 4 albums, for a more classical approach.  If you like the louder experimental music that is more metal based then try "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum".  You mentioned "Swans", so you might like "Angels of Light" which is another band headed by Michael Gira, more along the lines of folk, but he really stretches the boundaries of Prog Folk.  If you like the drone/electronica experimental music, then try Bass Communion which is Steven Wilson's project. 

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Have you heard of Tool and their album Laterilus.

I will also reccomend the band Major Parkinson and their album Blackbox

Also Devil Dolls is worth a mention.
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That's a wide range of stuff. First things that come to mind are Talk Talk's last two albums, Spirit of Eden and especially Laughing Stock. They have the chamber music elements that Part the Second has, the repetition of Swans, and a unique atmosphere.

I'd say check out Avant-prog in general. Henry Cow and Universe Zero have some of the chamber music elements that appear in some of the examples you gave.

As for Swans, their current sound is influenced by post-rock, krautrock, as well as the guitar totalism of Glenn Branca and Rhys Chatham, who are not necessarily prog, but bridge the gap between classical and rock in a very different way. As far as krautrock goes, Can and Neu! are the relevant ones. For post-rock, Godspeed You! Black Emperor seems like the main one.

I would check out the last two Stern records and Extra Life's Secular Works as well.
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Rock Bottom by Robert Wyatt is also an excellent album of experimentationa and elements which you seek, wimsical and presice
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Just go to avant/rio on here and you'll find a whole bunch of stuff including stuff by the residents, swans etc and although they are considered krautrock check out some early Can stuff. 
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Try Charles Lloyd's "Wild Man Dance" for some very experimental, free jazz. I took me a while to dig into it, but once I did, it took my mind for a wild spin.
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

That's a wide range of stuff. First things that come to mind are Talk Talk's last two albums, Spirit of Eden and especially Laughing Stock. They have the chamber music elements that Part the Second has, the repetition of Swans, and a unique atmosphere.

I'd say check out Avant-prog in general. Henry Cow and Universe Zero have some of the chamber music elements that appear in some of the examples you gave.

As for Swans, their current sound is influenced by post-rock, krautrock, as well as the guitar totalism of Glenn Branca and Rhys Chatham, who are not necessarily prog, but bridge the gap between classical and rock in a very different way. As far as krautrock goes, Can and Neu! are the relevant ones. For post-rock, Godspeed You! Black Emperor seems like the main one.

I would check out the last two Stern records and Extra Life's Secular Works as well.
Those Talk Talk-albums are so fantastic! Also one great band that has put into avant/rio is Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, it is going into punk direction, so if punk is not your music at all, theyīre not your stuff.
 
And because some "weird" stuff is mentioned, I just want to recommend Comus that has been my great pleasure about 1,5 years now,
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Try "Art Zoyd", especially their first 4 albums, for a more classical approach.  

It cannot be stressed enough that all Art Zoyd albums are great and some of the most experimental stuff is actually on later ones such as Metropolis and Champ des Larmes; they steered into contemporary experimental avantgarde more and more often with growing maturity.

Otherwise my avatar-giving hero Holger Czukay (ex-Can) did some spectacular stuff on his solo albums although this is quite different from the things you have mentioned with much sampling and (re)mixing; try, e.g., Canaxis, Movies, Good Morning Story, Clash, Linear City, New Millenium. Another groundbreaking album regarding the use of samples is Eno and Byrne's "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts". Not sure how much you are into meditative electronic but Tangerine Dream's Zeit is a timeless classic and some of their early work is pretty experimental. Some more experimental non prog-mainstream things come from This Heat/Charles Hayward, Throbbing Gristle, Zoviet France. Fred Frith (ex-Henry Cow) has a number of solo albums worth checking; Helter Skelter and Steps Across the Border are awesome. David Sylvian (ex-Japan) has also moved more and more in an experimental direction in later years.
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Thanks everyone who responded, wow! Found a lot of interesting music. Though i am already a Tool and Talk Talk fan, those bands are great recommendations. I must say, i discovered Thinking Plague and that has been my greatest success so far. Highly recommended, if anyone knows anything similar to that, shoot!
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Originally posted by ProgBlob ProgBlob wrote:

Thanks everyone who responded, wow! Found a lot of interesting music. Though i am already a Tool and Talk Talk fan, those bands are great recommendations. I must say, i discovered Thinking Plague and that has been my greatest success so far. Highly recommended, if anyone knows anything similar to that, shoot!


Art Bears are pretty cool, maybe 5UU's, Ahvak, U Totem, Present.
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One that hasnīt mentioned here yet, not commonly conneceted to prog, but really great and if you like Captain Beefheart, itīs must, is the Red Krayola. You can start for example albums "Soldier-Talk" & "Black Snakes".
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May I suggest some works from the latest years. 
Poil - Brossaklit and Bubblemath - Edit Peptide have some of the most creative tracks I've seen from this decade.
As an IDM fan I shall suggest Igorrr - Hallelujah and Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy aswell.

And since I came across Brossaklit from this thread why not suggest Guerilla Toss' homonymous album, which is weird as f**k and I still need to relisten to.

Edit: Had a listen to Charles Lloyd and remembered of Medeski, Martin and Wood. Friday Afternoon in the Universe was a great album of theirs


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