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 Topic: Fairport Convention: Liege And LiefPosted: December 04 2018 at 03:47 |
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Liege And Lief. The British folk rock pioneer, but overrated?
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 07:37 |
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Hi,
In my book, this is one of the best albums ever done, specially if one considers one of the prettiest things EVER RECORDED in rock music ... REYNARDINE. I always thought that this was a very important album when it first came out, and although things like Beatles and KC, JT and ELP were all the rage, in the end, this is one of the albums that I love the most and can sit back and die away with the easiest ... it is splendid and well done. If I have a sad comment about it all, it is that Richard Thompson, never really did that style of guitar playing ever again, and I think that it might have been a sort of tribute to Sandy Denny, but he has never really said anything about her that I can remember, which suggests other issues, but the combination was totally amazing, and in that album, it is positively exciting and far out. I, sometimes, think that PA has a total and complete aversion to things that are heavenly beautiful (sorry for the illusion!), because it does not have a rock beat and a recognized format that everyone can recognize, and in this process, folks like Peter Hammill, Roy Harper and total individualistic styles that are more represented by the words and the person behind them ... get more often than not taken for granted. It isn't about the singing style, or this or that ... it is something else that words can not describe, and only a few folks have that feeling, and can reach for the stars and bring it to you and I. Sandy Denny was one. BTW, catch the Remastered last album of hers with FC and make sure you listen to "One More Chance" in the complete version and then die away in tears on her piano version demo ... such a beautiful voice and control of the wording ... and she also did it in Reynardine, which, btw had been written many years ago. Like over 100 years! But "One More Chance" is all Sandy Denny. One evening as I rambled Among the leaves so green, I overheard a young woman Converse with Reynardine. Her hair was black, her eyes were blue, Her lips as red as wine, And he smiled to gaze upon her, Did that sly, bold Reynardine. She said, "Kind sir, be civil, My company forsake, For in my own opinion I fear you are some rake." "Oh no, " he said, "no rake am I, Brought up in Venus' train, But I'm seeking for concealment All along the lonesome plain. Your beauty so enticed me, I could not pass it by, So it's with my gun I'll guard you All on the mountains high. And if by chance you should look for me, Perhaps you'll not me find, For I'll be in my castle, Inquire for Reynardine." Sun and dark she followed him, His teeth did brightly shine, And he led her up a-the mountains, Did that sly, bold Reynardine. Songwriters: Ashley Hutchings / David Mattacks / David Swarbrick / Richard John (Gb1) Thompson / Sandy Denny / Simon Nicol |
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 07:59 |
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^ yeah, they don't write 'em like that anymore!
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 11:07 |
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Great album....certainly my favorite by them, and I'm a bit surprised that there are no 4 stars here at PA on the early albums.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 11:57 |
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^ yeah, what's up with that? The "prog folk" either was not prog enough or not folk enough. Or both maybe.
 Actually, they're listed under "prog related" so I don't know what's up with Fairport here.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 12:16 |
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^Yeah...prog related....that is odd imho...should most definitely be prog folk.
btw....Richard Thompson is a great guitarist who rarely gets mentioned and I should have mentioned him in the underrated guitarists thread.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 12:31 |
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^ Agree 100%. He's definitely an unsung guitar hero!
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 13:53 |
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I actually think, in retrospect, it was underrated in it's time (at least here in the US). It is such a creative melding and with such stellar musicians (they were all so young and so talented). I actually prefer The John Renbourn Group's version of "Reynardine," but that was done in a more traditional style, and many years later, so not exactly a direct comparison. That being said, Matty Groves is so much fun, as is Tam Lin (love those long tales versions of songs) and Crazy Man Michael so plaintive and beautiful to close it out.
Richard Thompson fan here, he just about can do no wrong, as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 13:59 |
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^ You know your Fairport Miss S. I think it's a case of being overrated in the UK and underrated in the US. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 14:20 |
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Good record but i prefer WHAT WE DID ON A HOLIDAYS a little more.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 14:26 |
Thank you, the sub-genre is a special favourite of mine. You are probably correct in your estimation of it being somewhere in the middle. The US is so large and, especially, when this was a new recording, there was much music which was only being heard regionally. It almost seems as though the farther west it got from the UK, less of it was heard, especially then. We are lucky to know of it then and now.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 14:40 |
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^ I became a fan by osmosis as my late wife turned me on to them when we first got together in the UK in the seventies. I was prepared for something stuffy and staid and was floored the first time that I heard Liege And Lief. Then I saw them live. Just the Swarbrick led foursome after Sandy left the group for the second time. They were still great.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:03 |
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Osmosis is as good an introduction as any!
 Sorry to hear of the loss of your wife. That is hard (as I know, having lost my husband last year), the hardest thing I've ever been through, and that is saying something. Helps to have good music memories. I so wish I'd been able to see them live, I'm jealous! Maybe the current mix at some time, if they ever make it over here. |
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:04 |
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It's also strange that Renbourn , Jansch, Fairport , and Steeleye Span are represented here yet Thompson and Drake don't have a PA page under prog folk.......go figure.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:07 |
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That is interesting, I've not had a chance to comb through all of the represented. Maybe no one ever did suggest Thompson and Drake? Although I think it's fantastic that the rest are represented....
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:14 |
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Sandy Denny - one of the few singers who can truly make me cry, I love her voice more than any other and the interpretations are always breathtaking, full of feeling and meaning (and a great composer too) Richard Thompson - I certainly agree he is underrated, the guy can use those 6 strings to good effect, that's for sure. Liege & Lief - always a favorite of mine, but then I'm biased for FC since I take immense pleasure from almost everything they did . Only saw them live once, in 1978, Sandy tragically already gone only a couple months before, for whom they dedicated a song, can't remember exactly which anymore (fool me !)
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:18 |
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And Denny does not have a page here either....though she is under Strawbs, Fairport, and Fotheringay.
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 15:30 |
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^ Right, and I proposed her once, not many time ago... (I can concede her solo work is not that much prog)
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 16:01 |
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Superb album, a true masterpiece
 . Is it prog? Who cares, with music that good? Anyway, the title is Liege and Lief (a word of Old English origin meaning "dear", "beloved"), not Leaf. |
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Posted: December 04 2018 at 16:04 |
Right you are! Wish I'd noticed that. Great eyes, there.
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