The American Politics Thread

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856

yeah... I agreed strongly with that dude whose ooinion piece I posted last week...  there are already cracks in FAUX's facade of being the Trump propaganda network.. and much I suspect is Murdock hedging his bets and not wanting his network to go down in flames with the Trump Presidency.  

yep...  and the national emergency is nothing but historically gross incompetence and a humanitarian disaster?

and on it goes... real popcorn munching going on... really see the only way this ends...  fittingly considering the times and the orange mess our lovely informed and thinking voters did by voting Trump in.. with a consitutional crisis.. or would be except even his stacked SCOTUS will shoot his ass down after the courts take less than an hour to slap injunctions on the President ignoring the Constitution.  Always had talked a good game about 'doing this or doing that' which would fly against the Constitution.. but in this case.. he has backed himself into such a corner. Short of laying down and giving up like the little bitch he is...  now seeing the House is not going give him what he wants.. he will be forced to try to bypass Congress and that isn't going to fly

Easy Money wrote:   So I'm guessing your field of expertise must be psychology or human relations given the put downs you are handing out in these areas.

dr wu23 wrote: npjnpj wrote: @ dr wu23: A very interesting point. If you demand professional expertise to express an opinion on a subject, that disqualifies almost everyone from discussing almost anything, wouldn't you say? So which professions would you be prepared to accept as qualified to post in this thread? I wasn't picking on anyone...my point was that anyone's opinion is as good as anyone else unless one can show how they have 'expertise' in that area....Atavachron was saying your opinion didn't count and imho was rude about it yet his reply said nothing about his own credibility  either. My point was unless one has special education or knowledge why is their comment worth more than anyone elses..?

So I'm guessing your field of expertise must be etiquette, psychology or human relations given the put downs you are handing out in these areas.

Edited by Easy Money - January 07 2019 at 19:22

npjnpj wrote: @ dr wu23: A very interesting point. If you demand professional expertise to express an opinion on a subject, that disqualifies almost everyone from discussing almost anything, wouldn't you say? So which professions would you be prepared to accept as qualified to post in this thread?

A friend of mine was visiting New York for a week over new years and he was quite stunned at the consequences of the government shutdown. Trash piling up on the street, police everywhere, tense atmosphere; what else is going on because of this? (btw, in his own words, he is planning to never go to the US again after this holiday experience, make of that what you will)

npjnpj wrote: Oh I don’t know, the USA seems to be the mainly affected country while the rest of the world is rallying around new economic and strategic alliances fast. Not on anyone’s wishlist, for sure, but adapting quite nicely. The international community is reacting to the fact that the US has become an unreliable partner in any and all matters military and non-military, and will become even less (or more?) so in the forseeable future, so alternative alliances are being sought and confirmed at this very moment. Add to that the fact that the USA are slowly imploding from within with tariffs and connected import- and export problems, a semi-permanent government shutdown and a sensational national debt, it’s already half way to being a global non-player. In a way it’s a bit like looking at the collapse of the Soviet Union not very so long ago. Nobody really thought at the time that that would happen either. Interesting. Apart from the possible nuclear oopsie you mentioned, it doesn’t look like the rest of the world has a lot to worry about. In fact I think it's a distinct possibility that if Trump should try a nuclear stunt, the other nations with nuclear capabilities could unite and retaliate. The US is not a very popular nation any more.

USA is the largest economy by far, the strongest military power and almost all but a few embargoed nations trade with the US. Any move to a non US led hegemony is going to be messy. Doubly so if it involves a China led by Jinping. If you thought Trump was authoritarian, you ain't seen nothing yet. I am NOT American by the way. Heaven knows I have dissed America for the Iraq War a million times. But they are still the least worst superpower the world has had. A US collapse will be nothing like that of the Soviet.