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Frenetic Zetetic 
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Fantastic album from a very weird era in prog rock. Discipline is in my top three KC records for sure. It might be my favorite to share with non-prog listening friends, as well.
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HackettFan
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Posted: October 14 2018 at 22:48 |
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Fantastic album. I had a big long post a couple days ago, but captcha got me. Just as well, most are thinking. Discipline has the same powerful aggressive sound that Red has. It traded out mellotrons for guitar synthesizers, which were worth exploring and they gave Roland good feedback on them. They got “symphonic” sound of a more synthey sort from the guitar synthesizers. Their polyrhythms were well within the spirit of Prog. The contrast in stage presence between Fripp and Belew reminds me of a similar earlier contrast between Fripp and Muir. Great stuff.
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richardh
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 00:15 |
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I do love that album at No12 in your list. In fact I would put it at number 2 in my list behind Red.
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philipemery
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 03:32 |
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We like very different eras of KC my friend lol.
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 06:05 |
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Still modern today, when modern prog sounds so old.
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 07:16 |
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I'm only an occasional KC fan but I like Discipline quite a lot
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 08:22 |
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I adore it but the next two were really bad attempts at recapturing that Discipline magic.
Discipline 9.5/10 Beat 6/10 Three Of A Perfect Pair 5/10
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 16:56 |
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Posted: October 16 2018 at 18:28 |
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ecasasmusic
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Posted: October 17 2018 at 11:18 |
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King Crimson is an ever changing band. Every incarnation is different. So why changing the name for Discipline era and not for Larks era or Thrak? It is all KC in different shapes.
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Posted: October 18 2018 at 09:20 |
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Not my cuppa either. This band achieved the making of a vastly overrated album in the dawn of its existence and did this over again twelve years later
 . It was a twist of fate that "Discipline" would be the name of a band from a later period that released a masterpiece with quite a lot of symphonic elements. |
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Posted: October 23 2018 at 09:56 |
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Difficult to think of it as a KC album but maybe those who are attached to ITCOTCK feel the same way about Red. It doesn't have any of the emotional peaks of Red nor the expansiveness. But hey, it's the 80s and here's KC in a smart, sustainable size as Fripp had promised. And it works brilliantly in its own right. While I find it difficult to get attached to the aesthetic, the songwriting is catchy as f**k, maybe the best ever for KC.
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Posted: October 23 2018 at 12:26 |
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"Discipline" is too disciplined for my taste. The best track on it is - no surprise - "Indiscipline". The album should have gone more in that direction, in my opinion.
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Posted: October 23 2018 at 13:57 |
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Whereas the earlier KC had more of an organic and earthy approach, Discipline to me has too much of a modern and almost robotic feel. It's a great sound, but a bit too much like computers involved, and not enough heart and blood.
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Posted: October 23 2018 at 14:12 |
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That was typical of the 80s though. That's why there were so many experiments with drum computers in the 80 too. Needless to say all of them were failures.
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Posted: January 11 2019 at 21:04 |
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Best KC albums:
1. ITCOCK 2. Discipline 3. Red Many others albums still great, BUT those 3 ones are so marvelous from diversity to performance! I will always remember the first time i listened to those ones: i was astonishing!
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What's in a name? Fripp/ Sylvian does not trip off the tongue and memory as easily as an established name. The Next Day very much a Crimson album but is not called that and we are all conditioned to think in pop group identity. And so that goes. Discipline I did not find to be overly electronic - electric yes, but guitars bass and drums with vocals is the basis. Tony Levin gives us the Chapman Stick making this album the effective Are You Experienced of the day. The symphonic elements are there just done with guitars rather than mellotron. Even now one of the most breathtaking and innovative rock albums ever. And the composition style mas maintained over 2 more albums of it's like while exploring songs as well as the "Weird stuff".
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Posted: January 12 2019 at 04:57 |
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Posted: January 12 2019 at 19:43 |
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If they had called that incarnation Discipline then what the hell would the band Discipline have had to call themselves??? King Crimson???
 Anyway the concert I saw for that album is one my favorite shows I have ever seen. And on that note, here's an article that I had saved and forgotten about that posted in another category in the forum. Download it to read it.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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