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exoticprog 
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Hi, I am looking for any prog rock group from the Netherlands that sings in Dutch. Does anyone know of any? All of the Dutch prog groups I could find all sing in English. Thanks.
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 27 2019 at 22:40 |
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I had the same doubt for years, until once I asked and was fortunate to get some very good answers (I don't remember if I made a thread about it, or just asked in some other thread). Some might come to give you some of the answers more directly, but this list sums the answers I have given. Though I'm ashamed to say I still have to check them out.
Novalis. Album: Konzerte. Songs: all. Novalis. Album: Novalis. Songs: "Wer Schmetterlinge lachen hört" and "Es färbte sich die Wiese grün". Novalis. Album: Sommerabend. Songs: "Wunderschätze" and the title track. Guru Guru. Album: Tango Fango. Songs: Title track. Guru Guru. Album: Hey Du! Songs: the title track, "Was für ne Welt" and "Dös war I"; the last one actually is in Bavarian dialect. Guru Guru. Album: Mani in Germani. Songs: "Komm lutsch mal" and "Heit geh i in d' Schtodt"; the last one again is in Bavarian dialect Guru Guru. Album: Guru Manis neue Abenteuer. Songs: "Schleimeimer" and "Der König ist goldrichtig". Amon Duul 2. Album: Phallus Dei. Songs: "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" (arguably the most disgusting lyrics ever and definitely highly controversial) Amon Duul 2. Album: Carnyval in Babylon. Songs: "C.I.D. in Uruk" Amon Duul 2. Album: Vortex. Songs: "Die 7 fetten Jahr" and "Das Gestern ist das Heute von Morgen". Amon Duul 2. Song: "Deutsch Nepal". Kraftwerk. Song: Les Mannequins. Kraftwerk. Song: Das Model. Kraftwerk. Song: Computerliebe. Floh de Cologne. Album: Mumien. Kraan. Album: Kraan. Franz K. Album: Sensemann. Pinguin. Album: Der Grosse Rote Vogel. Hanuman. Album: Hanuman. Lied Des Teufels. Album: Lied Des Teufels. |
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Posted: October 28 2019 at 00:37 |
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^These are all German (or - in casu - Double Dutch  ). But prog songs in Dutch are very rare. I think some of the (never recorded) songs I wrote back in the 80's belong to the most proggiest.But - fortunately - we have this 1976 Focus song: Avondrood. The Well Done section of Hamburger Concerto contains verses from a play, Gijsbrecht van Aemstel (1637), by the Dutch poet and playwright Joost van den Vondel (1587-1679). These verses have become a Dutch Christmas song.
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Posted: October 28 2019 at 02:16 |
Dutch (NL) =/= Deutsch (Ger)
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Posted: October 28 2019 at 05:26 |
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I remember about this band: Poetica In Silentio. |
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Posted: October 29 2019 at 02:15 |
saw them live twice. They once opened for my buddies Globalys.
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Posted: October 29 2019 at 11:39 |
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I just looked them up. They do not sing in Dutch. I am looking for Dutch groups that do sing in the language, (especially 70's and 80's groups but even 2010's groups are fine).
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Posted: October 29 2019 at 11:41 |
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Those are all German groups, most of which I already know of and still listen to on a daily basis in fact. I am looking for prog groups from the Netherlands that sing in Dutch.
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 29 2019 at 23:41 |
 Oh man, I really made a fool of myself. Yeah, I would like to know about Dutch ones too. The one I do know of (I think... I hope I don't blow it again) is The Hamburger Concerto song from Focus... it's mostly instrumental, and I do consider it so, but in the end it's got some nice choral singing which I understand is actually in Dutch. |
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Posted: October 30 2019 at 14:00 |
That's more like it. I speak German and love listening to the German groups you mentioned. I'm studying Dutch now and that's why I asked about Dutch groups singing in Dutch. I came across the Hamburger Concerto too and found Dutch lyrics.
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Posted: October 30 2019 at 16:18 |
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A Dutch song by Earth & Fire (1976):
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Posted: October 30 2019 at 22:54 |
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Hi,
I'm not sure that you will find many ... just about every group had a song or two in that language, but in the end, it depends on the artist ... I was thinking of Kayak, Alquin, and some of the other bands from the whole area, and the main issue? Guess what? ... The label is not Dutch ... it's owned by someone else in England or America or elsewhere ... and your band is stuck ... Germany was a bit more diversified and the book FUTURE DAYS shows how separate and different some of the areas and the artists that came from them ... and some of them did in German, because they (apparently) were not specifically trying to sell a million copies of their album ... but in general, all of them knew very well ... that if they wanted to sell some albums they had to go conquer a lot more than the bar in their town or the college folks that liked them at parties! It is an issue, though ... my family (Jorge de Sena // Portuguese) was on the warpath (so to speak) to keep Portuguese Literature on the map and they succeeded, but it made things tough, because none of us in the house of 9 children, were being educated in America, and influenced by everything that is American, had little if any interest in Portuguese anything ... and even today, I have a hard time listening to some bands from Portugal that are progressive ... none of them are bad, but hearing one of them sing in Portuguese, kinda took the taste out ... In the end, this is a "world economy" and any band sticking to their own language ... is going to have a hard time ... which of course, we are immediately going to say ... what about MAGMA ... but I do not see a "Zulu-rock" singing in Zulu selling a lot in England or America ... it might if it is progressive rap ... but you already know ... why so few folks will buy a copy ... it doesn't speak to me! I think that most artists have to think about what they really want ... if selling is not an issue, then, go ahead and sing in any way you want or language ... but if you are going to do concerts and try to reach an audience in order that you might even be able to make a small living, then the whole thing changes ... and I am not sure that anyone wants to limit their exposure ... you just never know when the bell tolls and ... voila ... you just sold 100K albums in NY ... or Tokyo ... and you are not likely to do that in your own language!
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Posted: October 31 2019 at 20:15 |
There was (might have been one of these), also a promo that went out about the band that was in DUTCH and has bits and pieces of at least 2 or 3 albums ... I'm not sure that it was released in complete ... had had some from an early album and from the future album at least ... it was enjoyable to hear that, I have to admit ...
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Posted: December 22 2019 at 14:50 |
It doesn't help either that in the Netherlands, almost everyone (over 90% of the population, apparently) is able to speak English to a reasonable degree, so from a purely financial point of view there's not really a reason for Dutch singers to sing in their native language. As long as the music is good I personally don't mind not being able to understand the language in which it is sung (I only know a few words of Italian and that doesn't hinder my enjoyment of the Italian prog scene) but I'm aware that it's a barrier that a lot of people aren't willing or able to cross, sadly.
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