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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I’ve fallen in love with this band recently and been on a huge kick. I love how Hammill uses his voice kinda like a lead instrument. Looking for more classic bands like them, dark and just out there. I’m of course familiar with crimson and gentle giant.

I don't know ... I think you are working yourself into a corner, and the specialty and individualistic feeling that many other bands can have, gets kinda swept aside by comparison. To be honest with you, PH and VdGG are one of a kind and have been for 50 years, a very individualized feeling and expression that is not loved by everyone, be it someone complaining about his voice, or something else ... like one post one time ... no keyboards and just one sound all the time (organ!).

Of all the bands in my 50 years of listening to this stuff ... I think that the one that is the most unusual and quite different from album to album (it ends for me in Vive La Trance) is Amon Duul 2, but that's a band that is really hard to get into since they are so harsh and different sometimes, and a couple of years later, the album HIJACK is a really good album, but no one will listen to its music, and it has some very far out things, although, as usual, it is way out there, and even the feminist moment by Renate ... is completely ignored and means absolutely NOTHING to anyone else ... at a time when that was something that was coming alive in the media ... but it gets laughed off ... so what? ... wow ... totally insane!

Other bands fit into the are of way out there, and BANCO is probably one, however Giacomo's singing is more attuned to classical music styles, than it is rock music, and thus not many fans can listen to it and enjoy it ... because ... wow ... where is the rock song and the hook? There is none! You can see this today, when they do some of the old material and the vocals are much more rock oriented than Giacomo's presentation ... but no one that heard the old stuff and had the music, will even listen to it now ... and even bands like PFM have done a very nice album ... no one is going to listen to it ... in other words the feeling of the "individuality" that was the staple of a lot of "progressive" music, is gone ... and we don't recognize it!
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Matthew Parmenter (solo) and Dsicipline.

His nephew Ryan Parmenter (solo) and Eyestrings.

Gargamel (Norway).
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Maybe Raw Material (especially their second album: Time Is) Smile
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Beyond Hammill's solo work and Discipline/Matthew Parmenter, the only time I've ever been totally struck by a similarity to Hammill/VDGG's vocals is from the 1978 album, Babylon from Florida one-off band, BABYLON. But the music is more imitative of Gabriel-era Genesis, so be forewarned. 
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I decided to take the plunge today and bought a couple of CD's by Van Der Graaf Generator without even hearing them first, although I can take them back to the record store if I don't like them. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I decided to take the plunge today and bought a couple of CD's by Van Der Graaf Generator without even hearing them first, although I can take them back to the record store if I don't like them. Smile


Enjoy! They are among some of the least accessible prog so if you don’t love it right away, keep stabbing at it.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I decided to take the plunge today and bought a couple of CD's by Van Der Graaf Generator without even hearing them first, although I can take them back to the record store if I don't like them. Smile


Enjoy! They are among some of the least accessible prog so if you don’t love it right away, keep stabbing at it.
 

It took me some years to appreciate them, so take your time... Smile
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Some one mentioned Gnidrolog.....I just recently found out about them though they go back to the early 70's....to me a cross between GG and VDGG.


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^Near the center of the triangle formed by GG, VdGG and Jethro Tull.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I decided to take the plunge today and bought a couple of CD's by Van Der Graaf Generator without even hearing them first, although I can take them back to the record store if I don't like them. Smile


Enjoy! They are among some of the least accessible prog so if you don’t love it right away, keep stabbing at it.
The two VDGG albums I bought today are "The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other" and "H To He Who Am The Only One" which doesn't make much grammatical sense, but who cares anyway, it's prog. The music is meant to be a little offbeat with lyrics that are often hard do decipher, and that goes for prog album titles too. Smile


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So, did you like the albums? LOL
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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

So, did you like the albums? LOL
I haven't listened to the albums yet. The only song I've heard so far from the two albums is "A House with No Door" after seeing the song mentioned in a recent poll. I bought the two VDGG albums just on the strength of that one song. I have listened to "Pawn Hearts" though on YouTube, but didn't like it enough to go out and buy it. I'd give the "Pawn Hearts" album three stars if I was reviewing it. I'm hoping the two albums I've bought today will be worthy of four stars though. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The only song I've heard so far from the two albums is "A House with No Door" after seeing the song mentioned in a recent poll. I bought the two VDGG albums just on the strength of that one song. I have listened to "Pawn Hearts" though on YouTube, but didn't like it enough to go out and buy it. I'd give the "Pawn Hearts" album three stars if I was reviewing it. I'm hoping the two albums I've bought today will be worthy of four stars though. Smile
 
If you liked "A House with No Door" but not "Pawn Hearts", then perhaps you would like "Still Life". That's an album I've not quite gotten into even after many years, but it would seem that we are different with regards to VdGG, so you might like it because of the type of music it is.
 
 
 
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^ You might also like the debut album, "The Aerosol Grey Machine".
 
 
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The only song I've heard so far from the two albums is "A House with No Door" after seeing the song mentioned in a recent poll. I bought the two VDGG albums just on the strength of that one song. I have listened to "Pawn Hearts" though on YouTube, but didn't like it enough to go out and buy it. I'd give the "Pawn Hearts" album three stars if I was reviewing it. I'm hoping the two albums I've bought today will be worthy of four stars though. Smile
 
If you liked "A House with No Door" but not "Pawn Hearts", then perhaps you would like "Still Life". That's an album I've not quite gotten into even after many years, but it would seem that we are different with regards to VdGG, so you might like it because of the type of music it is.
 
 
 
I'll let you know what I think to both albums after I've listened to them. I'm hanging on to my receipt, just in case I don't like them, but I think it's unlikely I'll return them to the record store. I've only ever returned one album I didn't like in the last ten years: "On the Beach" by Neil Young.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

From the little I have heard Audience seem to be similar and also Catapilla but the latter has a female singer. Also, Gnidrolog.
 
I see where you're geyting at, partly on vocal matters
 
But in terms of unusual line-ups (like VdGG was totally unusual), the Swiss band Circus was pretty strong (two sax/flute, drums and bassist) and did some tremendous stuff and relied also on extreme vocals at times
 
first album is a bit more difficult than Movin'On (posted on the Two discs ET thread)
 
 
 
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