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Classic Prog similar to VDGG |
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Quinino ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
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... go easy with those pints, guys ... (well, one more wont hurt - here's to you Donna Rafaella
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Muito obrigada
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18559 |
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I don't know ... I think you are working yourself into a corner, and the specialty and individualistic feeling that many other bands can have, gets kinda swept aside by comparison. To be honest with you, PH and VdGG are one of a kind and have been for 50 years, a very individualized feeling and expression that is not loved by everyone, be it someone complaining about his voice, or something else ... like one post one time ... no keyboards and just one sound all the time (organ!). Of all the bands in my 50 years of listening to this stuff ... I think that the one that is the most unusual and quite different from album to album (it ends for me in Vive La Trance) is Amon Duul 2, but that's a band that is really hard to get into since they are so harsh and different sometimes, and a couple of years later, the album HIJACK is a really good album, but no one will listen to its music, and it has some very far out things, although, as usual, it is way out there, and even the feminist moment by Renate ... is completely ignored and means absolutely NOTHING to anyone else ... at a time when that was something that was coming alive in the media ... but it gets laughed off ... so what? ... wow ... totally insane! Other bands fit into the are of way out there, and BANCO is probably one, however Giacomo's singing is more attuned to classical music styles, than it is rock music, and thus not many fans can listen to it and enjoy it ... because ... wow ... where is the rock song and the hook? There is none! You can see this today, when they do some of the old material and the vocals are much more rock oriented than Giacomo's presentation ... but no one that heard the old stuff and had the music, will even listen to it now ... and even bands like PFM have done a very nice album ... no one is going to listen to it ... in other words the feeling of the "individuality" that was the staple of a lot of "progressive" music, is gone ... and we don't recognize it!
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Matthew Parmenter (solo) and Dsicipline. His nephew Ryan Parmenter (solo) and Eyestrings. Gargamel (Norway).
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Peter Hammill
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Maybe Raw Material (especially their second album: Time Is)
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24810 |
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Areknamés.
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Beyond Hammill's solo work and Discipline/Matthew Parmenter, the only time I've ever been totally struck by a similarity to Hammill/VDGG's vocals is from the 1978 album, Babylon from Florida one-off band, BABYLON. But the music is more imitative of Gabriel-era Genesis, so be forewarned.
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Drew Fisher
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 45207 |
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I decided to take the plunge today and bought a couple of CD's by Van Der Graaf Generator without even hearing them first, although I can take them back to the record store if I don't like them.
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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Enjoy! They are among some of the least accessible prog so if you don’t love it right away, keep stabbing at it. |
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24810 |
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It took me some years to appreciate them, so take your time...
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20697 |
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Some one mentioned Gnidrolog.....I just recently found out about them though they go back to the early 70's....to me a cross between GG and VDGG.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24810 |
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^Near the center of the triangle formed by GG, VdGG and Jethro Tull.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 45207 |
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The two VDGG albums I bought today are "The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other" and "H To He Who Am The Only One" which doesn't make much grammatical sense, but who cares anyway, it's prog. The music is meant to be a little offbeat with lyrics that are often hard do decipher, and that goes for prog album titles too.
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Foxprog ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2018 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 236 |
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So, did you like the albums?
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 45207 |
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I haven't listened to the albums yet. The only song I've heard so far from the two albums is "A House with No Door" after seeing the song mentioned in a recent poll. I bought the two VDGG albums just on the strength of that one song. I have listened to "Pawn Hearts" though on YouTube, but didn't like it enough to go out and buy it. I'd give the "Pawn Hearts" album three stars if I was reviewing it. I'm hoping the two albums I've bought today will be worthy of four stars though.
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4999 |
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If you liked "A House with No Door" but not "Pawn Hearts", then perhaps you would like "Still Life". That's an album I've not quite gotten into even after many years, but it would seem that we are different with regards to VdGG, so you might like it because of the type of music it is. |
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4999 |
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^ You might also like the debut album, "The Aerosol Grey Machine".
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 45207 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20588 |
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I see where you're geyting at, partly on vocal matters But in terms of unusual line-ups (like VdGG was totally unusual), the Swiss band Circus was pretty strong (two sax/flute, drums and bassist) and did some tremendous stuff and relied also on extreme vocals at times first album is a bit more difficult than Movin'On (posted on the Two discs ET thread) |
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