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    Posted: February 06 2020 at 13:22
These are two quite loungey acts, both of which I have loved, that got started in the 90s. I've been into Air since the early 2000s, and more recently discovered Stereolab, and have been loving it. My favourite Stereolab album is Dots and Loops, though I like the Krautrock vibe of music off Emperor Tomato Ketchup very much and I think my favourite Air album became 10 000 Hz Legend (an album I was once rather dismissive of for some reason). At some time I want to do a loungey music thread, which will cover a lot of ground, including the person in my avatar, Serge Gainsbourg.

Any recommendations based on Stereolab or Air would be appreciated.
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Air. I agree 10000 Hz Legend is a classic! I do like Stereolab too but their albums start sounding samey

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Another vote for AIR. Actually I’ve got you to thank for getting me into them, Greg, so thanks a bunch
It was of course with the 10000 Hz Legend album but have since then bought pretty much everything I could get my hands on from the band. There are no duds to be heard imho. The last album I span before turning in last night was Pocket Symphony. The night before it was Love 2.
I really love how they mix contemporary electronics with all kinds of real instruments and styles.

I own and love the exact same Stereolab albums you mention in the OP and gravitate more towards Dots And Loops. Haven’t spun the other in ages though. Maybe it’s time for a revisit.

As for recs? I’m blank this moment tbh...but maybe Swedish band Les Big Byrd. They frolick in the same types of Krautrocking corridors as Stereolab. Fun, groovy, psychedelic and very melodic. I’ve thought about suggesting them a couple of times but always seem to forget.
Never actually thought about how unique sounding AIR is...but trying to come up with some other artists that sounds even remotely similar..underlines how original of a sound they wield.
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I don't think anyone really sounds like Air. They were quite unique however if you like downtemp styled electronica like Air then you might like Portishead, Massive Attack (especially Mezzanine) and even Enigma.

Did you know that Stereolab basically stole its sound from a band called Family Fodder? To be fair they only had a song or two on the album "Monkey Banana Kitchen" but Stereolab caught wind of that and ran away with it.

Stereolab is tagged indietronica on RYM. Some other bands in that same general genre that i like are MGMT and The Postal Service.

Other types of electronic space pop that is roughly related included Messer für Frau Müller although it's a more bouncy space pop but still rather loungy with some surf rock.



The 60s was full of fun space pop. Artists like Esquivel, Dick Hyman, The Tornadoes and 101 Strings were all somewhat popular. Air sort of revived some of the sounds with more contemporary electronica sounds.

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Air is really nice ... good choice!
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I am honestly struggling to find any real recs that tread a similar path as the Frenchmen...but Mike did mention Massive Attack. Personally I’d go for 100th Window instead which really steps up the electronic wonderland feel..in a very wafting, serene and chill manner. I can vividly imagine seagulls putting this album on...just to have something nice to float around to..maybe practice all those elegant spiralling dive-moves that often gets the gull-juices going in mrs beak

Thinking about Stereolab and their sound made me think of Klaus Johann Grobe. I am seriously smitten by the guy and his take on ‘Kraut-pop’ or something to that effect....though some times it’s as if Dave Sinclair pops by the studio and infuses a little Caravan-like keyboard soloing. I’m certainly not one to complain about that. The ending track on this album, Spagat der Liebe, genuinely sounds like a cross-pollination between Canterbury and Berlin:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNoAHKiqW-o

Edited by Guldbamsen - February 07 2020 at 10:38
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2020 at 12:24
First vote to no preference. To me it´s totally same if these bands would have never exists. As also quite many same kind of "serious" artists of 1990-2000. But of course people have right to love them.
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^ To each his or her own musical experiences. So much depends on our life experiences, the associations we make, the time and space when we hear something, and our psychology at the time. Rather pointless perhaps, but I have quite often thought "what is it about something that makes it resonate or not resonate with me?" I like a lot of "chill" sorts of music, down-tempo/ indietronica, loungey, tropica sorts of music. Fiery balls to the wall stuff is more likely to leave me cold than chill, I might say. I love so much from the 90s, a lot of it being quite ambient, be that Art Zoyd's Haxan and Faust, Air, Sterelab, or even some popular ambient house and trance like The Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" (In that case it takes me back to a certain time in my life and is rather nostalgic).

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Air. I agree 10000 Hz Legend is a classic! I do like Stereolab too but their albums start sounding samey


I opted to give Stereolab a vote today, I've just been so into Dots and Loops over the last months. The only Air albums I've played a lot, and I have played them a great deal, are Moon Safari, 10 000 Hz Legend, and Talkie Walkie (my first Air album). It was seeing the music video for "Cherry Blossom Girl" off Talkie Walkie, which I found poignant, haunting and sad that got me to explore Air (that was something of a musical departure for me at the time). I still haven't listened to many Stereolab albums, mostly Dots and Loops and EMperor Tomato Ketchup. I did listen to Music for the Amorphous Body Study Center the other day, and enjoyed that one a lot. I'm late to really listening to Stereolab, as it was just from listening to a comedy radio program from the late 90s that used music in it that got me into it (two of the more popular ones, "Cybele's Reverie" and "The Flower Called Nowhere", so I started with the albums those are off, which may be the best albums. It also played Bjork's "Isobel" and "Joga:, which I was already into, which got me paying more attention to the music and not just the sketches/ depravity.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Another vote for AIR. Actually I’ve got you to thank for getting me into them, Greg, so thanks a bunch
It was of course with the 10000 Hz Legend album but have since then bought pretty much everything I could get my hands on from the band. There are no duds to be heard imho. The last album I span before turning in last night was Pocket Symphony. The night before it was Love 2.
I really love how they mix contemporary electronics with all kinds of real instruments and styles.

I own and love the exact same Stereolab albums you mention in the OP and gravitate more towards Dots And Loops. Haven’t spun the other in ages though. Maybe it’s time for a revisit.

As for recs? I’m blank this moment tbh...but maybe Swedish band Les Big Byrd. They frolick in the same types of Krautrocking corridors as Stereolab. Fun, groovy, psychedelic and very melodic. I’ve thought about suggesting them a couple of times but always seem to forget.
Never actually thought about how unique sounding AIR is...but trying to come up with some other artists that sounds even remotely similar..underlines how original of a sound they wield.


Glad to have got you into Air -- I've got into a lot of music because of you, including Electric Orange and Dungen methinks, which I was playing yesterday.

Les Big Byrd is very good, had to look it up to remember, that cover image of They Worshipped Cats is very memorable. Been a while since I listened to that, but it was a favourite of mine from 2014. Listening now, and enjoying it all over. -- forgot how ballsy it can be, ballsy in a good kind of sweaty way.    Pretty much anything pyschey and Krautrocky, of course, tends to appeal to me. Great recommendation for those into Stereolab, various MGMT and the like.
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Les Big Byrd’s last album Iran Iraq Ikea has got some of those balls as well I liked it at first but honestly didn’t give it too much attention. Lately though I have started to really dig it.

I think I may have come up with a slightly left-field rec in that it mixes the general contemporary feel of Air via all the different synths and perhaps equally important the gorgeous production, with, yes indeedy, the Krautrock vibes off of Stereolab...albeit sounding absolutely nothing like either...but yeah it is one of my favourite new discoveries, Die Wilde Jagd - Uhrwald Orange.
Here are two tracks from it.
One with a deep hypnotic groove: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBfPPy25oY
..and one with a melody on it’s lips: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=whvEAyKExG4

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^ Thanks. reading your post properly now, I have Die Wilde Jagd's Uhrwald Orange album, I like it a lot. It seems most of the modern stuff I search for these days tends to get "boxed" with Krautrock/ Progressive Electronic/ Berlin School.

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I don't think anyone really sounds like Air. They were quite unique
however if you like downtemp styled electronica like Air then you might
like Portishead, Massive Attack (especially Mezzanine) and even Enigma.

Did
you know that Stereolab basically stole its sound from a band called
Family Fodder? To be fair they only had a song or two on the album
"Monkey Banana Kitchen" but Stereolab caught wind of that and ran away
with it.

Stereolab is tagged indietronica
on RYM. Some other bands in that same general genre that i like are MGMT
and The Postal Service.

Other types of
electronic space pop that is roughly related included Messer für Frau
Müller although it's a more bouncy space pop but still rather loungy
with some surf rock.



The
60s was full of fun space pop. Artists like Esquivel, Dick Hyman, The
Tornadoes and 101 Strings were all somewhat popular. Air sort of revived
some of the sounds with more contemporary electronica sounds.


My friends were big on Enigma, I was into it too (liked the Gregorian chants in it, I am Gregorian after all, and considering all the loud House music that they would play - we were big nightclubbers, it made for a lighter ambiance. I haven;t listened to much Portishead, but I do like the acid jazz qualities of the music I have heard. I have heard some MGMT and some The Postal Service (seem to remember it reminding me of Moby), will refresh my memories later. With MGMT I had particularly liked "Metanoia".

Dick Hyman I know more by name as I thought it hilariously rude (up there with Dick Black's A Taste of Dick Black). And Esquivel need more exploring by me. Don't recall the Tornadoes and 101 Strings-- will look into those you've mentioned. I know that Brian Eno and CLuster were Air influences and various soundtrack stuff like Escape from new York. I would also think loungey music like Serge Gainsbourg would have been an influence.

Love this song, which is really why I post it.



Thanks for that vid, I enjoyed that.

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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Air is really nice ... good choice!


Thanks Pedro; much appreciated.

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I am honestly struggling to find any real recs that tread a similar path as the Frenchmen...but Mike did mention Massive Attack. Personally I’d go for 100th Window instead which really steps up the electronic wonderland feel..in a very wafting, serene and chill manner. I can vividly imagine seagulls putting this album on...just to have something nice to float around to..maybe practice all those elegant spiralling dive-moves that often gets the gull-juices going in mrs beak

Thinking about Stereolab and their sound made me think of Klaus Johann Grobe. I am seriously smitten by the guy and his take on ‘Kraut-pop’ or something to that effect....though some times it’s as if Dave Sinclair pops by the studio and infuses a little Caravan-like keyboard soloing. I’m certainly not one to complain about that. The ending track on this album, Spagat der Liebe, genuinely sounds like a cross-pollination between Canterbury and Berlin:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNoAHKiqW-o


Heard various Massive Attack, but not The 100th Window. Will check it out.

Listening to Klaus Johann Grobe's Spagat der Liebe -- instalove!    Thanks! Methinks you got me a new obsession.

Edited by Logan - February 07 2020 at 14:51
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I used to listen to Stereolab.....still have a few of the earlier to mid cd's by them.
Not that familiar with Air.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ To each his or her own musical experiences. So much depends on our life experiences, the associations we make, the time and space when we hear something, and our psychology at the time. Rather pointless perhaps, but I have quite often thought "what is it about something that makes it resonate or not resonate with me?" I like a lot of "chill" sorts of music, down-tempo/ indietronica, loungey, tropica sorts of music. Fiery balls to the wall stuff is more likely to leave me cold than chill, I might say. I love so much from the 90s, a lot of it being quite ambient, be that Art Zoyd's Haxan and Faust, Air, Sterelab, or even some popular ambient house and trance like The Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" (In that case it takes me back to a certain time in my life and is rather nostalgic).
I don´t like "chill" music at all and very little anything electro (in Faust nineties albums "Ravvivando" is least fav of mine, three others are just great). Björk´s Medulla is one of my big favorites from "Electro". There were some really great albums that came in nineties, but they were from Nick Cave, Sonic Youth, Nomeasno, Tom Waits, Thinking Fellers & Trumans Water. If I want some day to listen something like Air, I`d rather listen for example Charlotte Gainsbourg
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I must admit that Uhrwald Orange is about as big of a posterchild for the ol ‘marinade-album’ as I’ve ever heard. Sure from the get-go I dug the hell out of 2000 Elefanten but sort of slipped in and out of focus/awareness during some of the longer and more monotonous tracks. As you probably know, I’ve been struggling immensely with my back and general balance, and the only other thing besides very strong opiates perscribed from the doctor (presumably to make me a junkie? I got fairly close inside a week of taking those awful pills) is weed. Anyway I found gentle and chillax music to complement my medicine well - mostly because I found myself tensing up when music got too aggressive/forcefully angular - even if I usually love that stuff..but I realised just how much better my recovery went with my increased focus on more soothing sessions of music compared to what I normally threw on.
Where Uhrwald Orange suddenly began to blossom was when I started to listen to it late at night with headphones on..preferably in bed. Coming from a slew of bleeping Berliner Schule albums and general mellow affairs I was, maybe subconsciously, searching for something that straddle the line between that and something more ‘pervasive’ if you catch my drift
It dawned on me that the music actually works in much the same manner as NEU’s. What initially seems simple almost bordering on the naive..really is quite complex. It happens in small micro-shifts or attenuations of notes and harmonics..but it’s deliberate and ends up coming across highly originally imho.
The longer it’s marinaded with me the more the flavours come together to form a far more intricate picture than what I initially saw.

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Another rec that might be of interest to AIR fans is Melody’s Echo Chamber. When AIR gets all singersong-writer with acoustic guitars, organs and zippy electronics afloating they often impart a certain French connection via the Chanson vocals. If you dig that type of feel together with a largely old school psych foundation to the proceedings, then by all means go check out the album ‘Bon Voyage’:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GASvjorpNsQ

Edith: or maybe it actually sounds closer to Stereolab?

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Wow! This is a blast from the past. I've not really listened to either for along time. I will do again. I know Air better than Sterolab. I have at least 3 Air albums; Premiere Symptoms, Moon Safari & 10,000HZ. All very different IIRC, but I iked them all.

I'd need to listen to Stereolab again, but based on memory, I enjoyed Air more.
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Air gets my vote here. 
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Air are amazing and I voted for. But French Disko by Stereolab has the better lyrics. And more of a rush.
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