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Blacksword
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I agree. Big Generator, although not absolutely terrible, was a significant step down in quality. It could have been much better had they not stopped with working with Trevor Horn. IMO. |
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90125 is one of their worst records IMO. Thankfully the first Yes album I listened to was Fragile, if it had been 90125 there's no doubt that Yes would never have become my favourite group lol I think the only Yes albums I rank lower are BG, Union, and OYE. BG I think is actually on par with 90125, but as mentioned above, suffers from terrible production.
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Comparing 90125 and Big Generator is sort of like comparing Presto with Roll The Bones. Presto has the catchier songs but isn't necessarily better. Same thing with 90125. It has catchier songs but Big Generator goes deeper and is more reminiscent of classic Yes so it gets the nod for me personally.
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Psychedelic Paul
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That's one of the few positive comments I've read about the Big Generator album. It's certainly been a Big Generator of controversy amongst die-hard Yes fans.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I'll probably never say much negative about it unlike most on here. Maybe part of the reason I have a soft spot for it is the sentimental value it has for me. It was the first tour I saw Yes on and I even attended a Yes convention a couple of months before it was released. Also, I like the eclectic nature of the album. Some of the songs on 90125 are rather similar. Pretty much everything on BG is quite different from the others. It's obvious they took more chances on it and because of that some people don't like it. Having been there at the time I will say that it took too long for it to come out. It should have been released at least a full year before it was. So because of that the timing was off. There were just too many problems with making it and so that might be why some people complain about the production. It never really bothered me though.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I just read today that there's an asteroid named 90125 by the International Astronomical Union in honour of Chris Squire's memory, so I've just added that little titbit of info to my intro.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I don't know if anyone's seen the video for "Owner of a Lonely Heart", but it's a very strange video indeed. The video suddenly stops in its tracks halfway through the song and then restarts again with a completely different music video. They should have stuck with the original version though in my opinion. See what YOU think.....
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^That's the long version, which IIRC MTV might have aired ONCE. They always played the short version.
Tony Kaye is not in that video. You can pause it in a few places and see Eddie Jobson: 0:19 That's Ed back behind his keyboards, doing the fist pump. 0:32 Another glimpse of Ed as the camera pans back to Jon. 5:52 He's off to Jon's right, second nearest to the camera.
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Psychedelic Paul
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^ Thanks for the info. I just found the original video for Owner of a Lonely Heart.
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City of Love is a kickbutt song.
Love all the (many) hits off this album too. |
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Yes, I remember City of Love features the unmistakable sound of Chris Squire's powerful window-rattling bassline in the opening..... |
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^Chris Squire FTW!
I personally enjoy "Leave It" quite a bit,
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I call it 90210. I was on board with the new direction of Yes when this one came out. I then moved on from Yes to other artists to the point that I didn't come back for a while after. Still haven't added this one to my Yes CD collection.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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When this album first came out I wasn't yet into prog nor did I know what it was so I didn't bat an eyelash about it. At the time I was listening to Def Leppard(pyromania), Styx and Journey (things like that) so this didn't really sound too out of place. I think in that context and with those goggles on it's fine but once you go down the prog rabbit hole you tend to get spoiled and think everything in terms of progginess and so that can be a problem. It's something to be aware of because it can potentially prevent you(if you have the prog snob attitude)from enjoying it(same thing with the first Asia album and Genesis "shapes"). I do have it on cd but not the version with bonus tracks(which I should get). Somehow it caught on as 90210 as a joke. Probably because of the tv show. As a result a lot of people call it that. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there are some prog fans who don't even know Yes very well and think that's the actual name of the album.
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Psychedelic Paul
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90125 should have been recorded in Beverley Hills. 90125 is the only Yes studio album I ever bought on the original vinyl, although I now have about a dozen Yes albums on CD.
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I remember it was funny when Van Halen put out OU812 and many didn't get the joke!
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Psychedelic Paul
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I didn't get the joke either until I just Googled "OU812" and it said "Oh, you ate one too." It's a bit like the abbreviation "F.U.N.E.X" which roughly translates as "Have you any eggs?" The Two Ronnies - Swedish Made Simple Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 04 2020 at 01:14 |
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YES - 90125 Live: Access All Areas - A documentary by Steven Soderbergh
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heaven and earth compared to 90125 has better production values i find love the song subway walls.
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