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Lewian
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Prog was never gone. 1979 Holger Czukay - Movies 1980 Tangerine Dream - Tangram 1981 King Crimson - Discipline 1982 Kate Bush - The Dreaming 1983 Peter Hammill - Patience 1984 David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees 1985 Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 1986 Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade 1987 Art Zoyd - Berlin 1988 Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden 1989 Fred Firth - Step Across the Border Every decade could be proud of this selection. I could name more.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I'm not personally familiar with the Kingston Wall or Nuova Era so can't really comment other than to say they both have rather high ratings on here. That Djam Karet release(the devouring)is often considered to be one of their very best if not their best so if you don't like that one then chances are you won't like them in general. The same thing with that Ozric Tentacles release(Jurassic Shift). That After Crying I had a long time ago and only heard once I think. The albums they put out before it are rated higher by some so maybe just look for the highest rated ones by them on here but don't neglect this one either(I don't remember which ones are rated the highest). The IB is very good with some pure classical moments but somehow it works and makes it a very interesting listen(too bad I no longer have it and apparently it's now oop). With PLP I am not sure I heard that particular album even though I think I own it(I don't usually play the autograph copies I have of a band and I'm pretty sure PL signed that one). If you don't like ELP you might want to skip them though(very keyboard oriented with some heavy guitar). Of course you can listen to these on youtube. You don't have to buy them(especially if you don't like them).
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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None of these are from the third wave or were part of any real comeback though. Also, I don't consider any to be very influential apart from the Talk Talk and KC (IMO). Maybe KB too. Not sure.
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FatherChristmas
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Most of those are from/related to the post progressive genre, that came in the "second wave" of prog along with neo prog, so I basically agree. I think they part of a comeback though (as I said, they came with neo in the second wave), just not a recent one. And you could argue the comeback in the 90s/00s isn't recent either, for me it finally ended with PT's The Incident, and that was 11 years ago now. Trouble is, since the 80s, prog hasn't really drawn much attention (apart from us prog fans), and therefore defining when a comeback was is very difficult (because prog bands aren't talked about, say, on the radio). It took us ages to realise there might have been a third one, and I'm having huge trouble determining whether we're in one right now. We are in a very debatable field.
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Lewian
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Obviously not third wave, my point was that I wasn't in much need for prog to "come back" because there were great prog albums in the phase in which you apparently think it was absent. The thing is, none of these albums feels like anything "coming back". Instead they feel like progressing. Influence, it depends on whom. Fred Frith is super influential in some quarters, as was Holger Czukay, and Kate Bush anyway. Maybe not to typical prog listeners. By the way, I don't want to be negative. I don't have anything against your list or your topic, I just thought I take it a bit against the grain (like Talk Talk did with pop music ).
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Anyone's Daughter Adonis Babylon s/t Present Triskadekaphobia Eskaton 4 Visions King Crimson Discipline Anthony Phillips 1984 Kate Bush The Dreaming IQ Tales from the Lush Attic Solaris Marsibéli KrónikákPallas The Sentinel Marillion Script for a Jester's Tear Pendragon The Jewel Jane Siberry The Walking Shub-Niggurath Les mortes sont vites David Sylvian Gone to Earth Mr. Sirius Barren Dream The Cardiacs A Little Man a House and The Whole World Window Galadriel Muttered Promises from an Ageless Pond Pazzo Fanfano di Musica s/t Ozric Tentacles Erpland After Crying Overground Music Pat Metheny Secret Story Dream Theater Images and Words Änglagĺrd Hybris The Flower Kings Back in the World of Adventures Pär Lindh Project Gothic Impressions Porcupine Tree The Sky Moves Sideways Discipline Unfolded Like Staircase Höyry-Kone Huono parturi Sigur Rós Ágćtus Byrjun
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verslibre
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Ozric's 1990-91 albums Erpland and Strangeitude do the same job, if not better, and sooner. Earlier than that with Djam Karet: Reflections from the Firepool (1989). ll Passo Del Soldato is amazing! You should listen to that ASAP.
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RPI, and that's their best album. You'll love it.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Ozric's 1990-91 albums Erpland and Strangeitude do the same job, if not better, and sooner.
Earlier than that with Djam Karet: Reflections from the Firepool (1989). ll Passo Del Soldato is amazing! You should listen to that ASAP. I chose Jurassic Shift partly because it was their first on a major label, the first to make the charts(in the UK)and the first to get them noticed in the US. Imo, it's fantastic. Strangeitude is very good too but not quite as good(imo). I maybe heard Erpland once a long time ago but don't remember it much. The same goes with the DK. THe prog community went bananas when that came out. It seems to have been a real gamer changer for them and prog at that time also. I'll check out some of the other ones too though. I'll listen to that Nuova Era on youtube the next time I get a chance.
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Strangeitude came out on I.R.S. Records, too. IMO, it was a big leap forward from Erpland. Strangeitude has a crazy energy, it's infectious. "Sploosh!" hit the top of the UK Indie Chart, as well. Arborescence completes an unofficial trilogy. I played the hell out of all of them, and Live Underslunky. Become the Other wasn't as good as the four before it, but they started to recover with Curious Corn.
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I'm limiting these to the 1990s I'll add a few - Eris Pluvia "Rings of Earthly Light" (1991) Il Castello Di Atlante "Sono lo Il Signore.." (1992) Red Jasper Muidsummer Night's Dream" (1993) Collage - "Moonshine" and Albion "Survival Games" (1994) Tempus Fugit ("Tales from a Forgotten World" (1997) Eloy - "Ocean II" (1998) |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I had arborescence at one point. That was really strong too. I kind of lost track of them until rather recently. I rebought strangeitude but I don't remember what else. I got live underslunky recently too. Those were the good old days. It's weird that for a brief period of time probably more people(especially prog fans)knew about Ozric Tentacles than knew about Porcupine Tree. I remember when I saw King Crimson in concert in 1995(in Philly) I even saw a guy wearing an Ozric Tentacles t shirt. Also, this might sound silly but I remember thinking Jurassic Shift was sort of Pat Metheny meets Nirvana!
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^ Yeah, exactlly. :D
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...back from what? Did prog fans need these albums to tell them prog was back from somewhere or did the music industry need these albums to tell them prog was back (from somewhere)?
I know I'm being a little sh*t.....but I'm bored tonight, so humor me!
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Good point. It never went away for me or for many fans but I think a lot of fans were limited to what they could find in the stores or maybe didn't know the scene still existed or that there was some kind of resurgence. It wasn't all online but I think that's how a lot of people at that time(if not most)reconnected with it. I feel it was more like a rediscovery than a discovery since I don't think there were that many younger folks discovering it for the first time. I'm sure some did but I think it was more like "hey man I just did a search on this world wide web thing and found out that there are newer progressive rock bands out there. Cool man. Plus Joey on aol said the new Yes albulm called talk is pretty cool too. He also told me about this band called Ozzy's Testicles or something. Also, Kirk's beard or something like that. Awesome dude."
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A truly excellent list and i know all of them lol, but when did prog go away as i must’ve. Missed It!!!! |
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So you were listening to obscure(ie non mainstream prog) in the 80's and 90's?
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I would have loved to see King Crimson's "Thrak" added to the list! Released 25 April, 1995.
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Back in 2006, before I joined PA (officially as I lurked for about a year), the place I found music discussions galore was the Zune Social. I had a Zune player (still use it) when it came out and bought music and had a Zune Pass and all that, till the day MS shut it down ....But the Social was the place where I talked about music with thousands of people across the world, Progressive Rock was a huge topic. The main reason it was so active was soon as you were done making a suggestion you could go to that artists page and download the music, plus they had a "related" button and that took you to other band pages, it would be an endless cycle of discovering music. It truly was a music Social.....so yea I know what you are saying, we were always suggesting new stuff all the time that we found. In the Social you could actually send a song to a member, they could listen and download it or not. It was the place I discovered Ostrich Testicles and The Pinebeetle Teeth..
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