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Snicolette 
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 In thinking of some of your other reasoning for votes, you bring the point that it is important to be moved by the message in this type of material, almost an "I wish I'd written that!" sort of feeling, someone else expressing so well what one perceives as an injustice or a solution to a societal problem. Now to listen to my so-far favourites once again.
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: January 13 2021 at 09:56 |
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Okay, let me be the first to vote then.
My votes go: 1-) to Snicolette's picks. She was the instant winner. 2-) to Mathman's. Both of his songs were very impressive, both musically and protesting wise. I'm very sorry that I couldn't pick jamesbaldwin's and suitkees' picks. Lorenzo's shared picks were musically really awesome, but as for the "protesting" aspect, I found suitkees' and Lewian's picks more relevant to what I protest and how I protest. In the end, I decided to vote for Lewian's shared songs; because his pick Racist Friend is just a perfect example of a non-violent protest. But also of a very VERY effective kind. Nor is this all, it is universal too! suitkees' L'iditenté is also equally good, albeit not universal and not that much all-encompassing; regarding both today's and earliler times' humanity. You know? Colonialism was just one of the biggest evils of mankind, but it doesn't encompass the whole of our history, nor does/did it affect (directly) everywhere in the world. Oh, and this "might" be the first time I felt like voting for Lewian's picks. I didn't want to miss the chance!  Edited by Shadowyzard - January 13 2021 at 09:58 |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: January 13 2021 at 06:52 |
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Let's start voting.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: January 13 2021 at 06:49 |
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OK, here's my take:
 jamemsbaldwin (Lorenzo)The Ballad of Sacco & Vanzetti: A beautiful mix and blend of simplicity & complexity musically. Very impressive drum & bass work. Beautiful and sentimental. The lyrics are very emotional and has a different feeling of power to it. I liked it very much. Pishkù Li: Heart-rendering vocals. Sublime atmosphere. Like taking a stroll in a rainy day, in a street full of nostalgic elements for the listener. Like, the street is very calm, but your inner voice is too strong and outflowing. This is what can happen when you're touched by authenticity that triggers your emotions. Beautiful. Nick: Parihaka: An uplifting song for me. Like those of Bob Marley's. I see the protest, but I also see how the singer tries to give his hand to the troubled person to emotionally lift him up, out of the darkness and sadness. A good song. French Letter: Let me be specific: this is also a fine song. A calmer song than the other. Perhaps this is how you protest the violent and loud nuclear disasters. Musically similar to the previous one, but rather peaceful than uplifting, I'd say. suitkees:Solidaritätslied (Solidarity Song): A "march" music, the "pace" makes it clear and the lyrics make it certain. Very good. Solidarity is a good concept and can be a powerful means for an anarchist like me too. I liked this short but powerful march! L'iditenté: Let the birds be uncaged! That was the first phrase that came to my mind. I loved the protest. Also loved the energy and passion of the song. Also, my heart and soul always remind me that, if a single person is "unhappy" in the world because of an unjust treatment, I cannot feel truly free. I'm not talkiing about circumstantial "unhappinesses" that can befall all of us, but the sort when a person or a group of people are made unhappy because of their race, political view etc. Postcolonial reflections and "self-immolations" can help to heal the soul and make the world a better place methinks. (I'm talking about a political "self-immolation", of course.) Logan (Greg):I Was Only 19: The song feels like having been written during a postwar depression period, and has all the sparklets of an ensuing protest. To the point and impressive. Great violins too. Shipbuilding: A similar song to the other, but has a more "nihilistic" feel to it. Seems like the depressive state is over, and the singer focused on his protest. Emotionally still powerful though. The Anders:Vem kan man lita på?: I felt a strong "youth" energy here. More like an observer than a "sufferer". I appreciated the (mostly) nonchalant protest. Very uplifting song. Thumbs up! Kom lad os brokke os: Haha. This is like a hindsight of a person, written while drinking some red wine. Cool! But I liked the first song better. This is a bit dull. TCat (Mike):How Miles Must We March: This is a good protest. Like from someone who gave up "fighting", but instead chose to protest without any hard feelings. "Hey people, same sh*t and it doesn't even change... I beg you to answer, till when?.." kind of protest. Good song. Money It's Pure Evil: Hmm. Bah! Typical and unimpressive sort of protest. I hate it when people protest things as if they are "saints" or special people who are somehow not included inside the concept that is criticized. Musically OK, but not that impressive. Snicolette (Nickie):Fourth Day Of July: The sinister "sound" of the song makes the otherwise "soft" music rather impactful. Very powerful in a different way, kinda like the ones who can make one question their views. Thumbs up! If It Were Up To Me: Awesome! I don't feel guilty to declare that you've already gotten one of my votes! Not many things to analyze in this song, it is just perfect. Like one's mind turned out to be a beehive, and in the end she chose to expel all the venomous bees whose honey is nothing but bitter prizes for the sake of being stung by many of them. Also, she might send her bees to collect better stuff next time, like from more pleasant flowers, so that "her" world would be embalm'd with delicate odours! Cristi:I Love The World: Oops, sorry. Not my thing. Perhaps I'm not with any kind of "army". Cantic De Haiduc: The vocals... Very complicated... Authentic, for sure. But sometimes annoying, as well as a delight for my ears. The ending is just beautiful. I guess I liked it anyways... dr wu23 (Doug):The Monster: I guess your way of "protesting" is just the opposite of mine; that is, yours is in peace. This song is a real delilght for the ears. Peaceful... Perhaps it is reflecting the peace of mind after some tumultous occurings and/or thoughts. It at times gets powerful, but never destructive or disturbing. For Everyman: I loved the soul of the song. I loved the American "serenity" that haunted me throughout. One of the gentle and good ghosts it is, seemingly. So, I'm not "protesting" and letting myself being enshrouded by it. mathman0806 (Geo):Dispossession: Very passionate. Loved it. Impressive lyrics too. Musically, the "bass" beat of the drums sound a bit off though. Otherwise, very well crafted song. The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin is one of my favourite novels BTW. Got No Shotgun Hydrahead Octopus Blues: That is what I call protest, with a "sonic boom". (Do you know Guile?) Very good. My second vote will probably be yours! Lewian:Kein Ende: The song immediately shouts like "I'm German," even before the singing begins. I love German music generally, and this is also a very good one. Your Gershon Kingsley granted us with his "Popcorn" in the '60s. Can you imagine that? One of the pioneers of this kind of music, perhaps the biggest one! Racist Friend: Perfect articulaltion both in speech and instrumentation, which makes the song convey its message and protest very clearly. Very well. Really a perfect example of a direct protest in music. Ronstein (Andy Corbett):No One is Responsible: Like taken from a musical. A very good British song. Not a "powerful" protest type, but also a very British one which necessarily makes it influential in the end, given the power of the British culture within and over the world. I liked the song. Both musically and lyrically. The articulation is impressive in this one too. I loved the ending too, BTW. Plan (That's Not the Way...): A song in a similar vein with the other. The "boing" sound adds a comical aspect to the song. A good one, but I liked the former better. |
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Posted: January 11 2021 at 17:46 |
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First song: free range synth-pop style song (a guilty pleasure), where the best part in my opinion are the vocals, very gritty. It's a pleasant song, and the ironic tone seems to be heard from the intonation of the vocals. Maybe a little too long. The video is as always (in Christian's case) very nice, and I was trying to remember what German cities they are. In my life, until now, I have seen Bavaria and little else: Munchen (two times), Altotting, Augsburg, Nurnberg (two times), Rothenburg, Bamberg, Frankfurt, Heidelberg. Are there any of these cities in the video? It's not so much, I know. Berlin is missing. The second song has artistic ambitions, albeit always a little crazy, and is in my opinion on a much higher level of quality. If the selection goes to the podium it will be for the second song. By the way, I'm a huge Star Trek fan, but only the classic series TV shows. Edited by jamesbaldwin - January 11 2021 at 17:46 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: January 11 2021 at 17:33 |
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Ronstein
Selection with two homogeneous, compact songs, of a super traditional folk, very sung (I could not afford songs so sung in Italian, it would be difficult for many of you to remain interested), decidedly free-range but also elegant the first, you can see the combination between protest and folk style, you hear it from the intonation of the vocals the second more rural. Interesting proposals. Edited by jamesbaldwin - January 11 2021 at 17:47 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: January 11 2021 at 13:00 |
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Roy Harper - "The Monster". Not a song I was familiar with, it's quite a melancholic singer/songwriter track. I think I have to listen to it again to judge it properly, because it doesn't immediately click with me. I am not fond of the singing (he is not a very good singer), but on the other hand there are some interesting sound elements now and then. Jackson Browne - "For Everyman". I didn't know that one too. Once again it's in the singer/songwriter area, but it's a corner of it that doesn't do so much for me personally. In any case it sounds honest, and I like its simple setup. Scala 3 - "Kein Ende". Enter 80's synthpop sound. I enjoy the irony in the lyrics, but sadly this kind of music does little for me. Captain Kirk - "Racist Friend". Musically this is much more me; it's an interesting arrangement and production. Lyrically I think it's a bit too "basic" for my taste. But again, I really like it musically. Even if I personally think that to stop people from being racist, it's doesn't help much just rejecting them (it may, in fact, turn things worse). Leon Rosselson - "No One is Responsible": Conveys an important message about running from your own responsibility in a totally Kafka'ish system. The main message of course being that everyone is responsible, you cannot say you "just obeyed orders". But there's a bit of humour in it too, and I somehow thought of Tom Lehrer while listening through the song. Songs like these are clearly much more about lyrics than music, and despite finding the lyrics very clever, I think I like it better when there's more emphaisis on both. Leon Rosselson and Roy Bailey - "Plan": Contains a lo-fi
aesthetics with badly recorded vocals and instruments (on purpose I am
sure). It's more of a regular "battle song", like those written for
specific protest demonstrations, strikes and so on, and with all
respect, I cannot help but have some distance to them -
even if I usually symphatise with the case they are written for.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 10 2021 at 17:25 |
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And first thoughts on dr wu23's out of competition contribution:
dr wu23: Tonio K “The Funky Western Civilization” Very sarcastic punkish, but more straight rock than punk song (reminds me a bit of Jerry Lee Lewis) , with a kind of 50's treatment of a horn section well-done social commentary piece. |
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Posted: January 10 2021 at 11:04 |
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Cool! I'll give my feedback tomorrow or the day after. Thanks to all of you for all the feedback, by the bye. |
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Posted: January 10 2021 at 09:58 |
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I'm not much for reviews but I did listen to all songs....some very interesting and nice things ...never heard of most of them.
Always liked this track and album..not exactly a folk song but surely some comments on western civilization...;), not in the competition just an interesting song...I wanted to share...seems really appropriate right now. They put Jesus on a cross
They put a hole in J.F.K
They put Hitler in the driver's seat
And looked the other way
Now they've got poison in the water
And the whole world in a trance
But just because we're hypnotized
That don't mean we can't dance.
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 17:51 |
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I would say we open the vote next Wednesday
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 17:50 |
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1) Algiers - Dispossession Basically it' a melodic gospel song, but with a fast rhythm. Powerful, inspired, the best piece (in my opinion) of your selection. 2)David Baerwald - Got No Shotgun Hydrahead Octopus Blues This one is a good rock song, with the right anger FDT (Out of competition) is a good rap. Pleasing songs, Mathman (and f**k DT!)
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 17:31 |
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Shadowyzard. Well, here there are some good vibrations. Good hard rock style, powerful. I prefer this to many songs by Rush. Gods of War is very good. TCat - Monster of folks (Out of competition) Delicate melody, delicate vocals, it's a pleasure to listen. Excellent lyrics.
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Thanks a lot.
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 13:47 |
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Noir désir/les Têtes Raides - "L'iditenté" is a sort of Balkan punk thing, but I sense a touch of cabaret too. It's very charming despite the lyrical topic - which sadly is still relevant, especially in my own country, Denmark :( Bruce Dickinson - "Gods of War": not so much my taste but it's a well crafted song. I think my favourite part is the break with the guitar duet. "Sacred Cowboys" has a touch of the 90's rap metal genre, but musically I think it less homogeneous. The vicious lyrics catch my attention. New Model Army - "I Love the World" is a very dark song, and unfortunately it is as relevant as ever. The gloominess this time is a bit too hard for me to take, but on the other hand it's difficult not to be taken by the song's intensity. Olympic '64 Dorin Liviu Zaharia - "Cantic De Haiduc" is much more up my alley, and I like the vocal style a lot. Musically it reminds of some Meditarranean music styles, but with electric instruments. Should be a clear contender for my part. It is sung in Romanian if I am not mistaken?
Algiers - "Dispossession" literally made my pulse rise. There's a nod to classic soul, for instance with the singing style, but it is clearly brought in to a very contemporary context. Contender. David Baerwald - "Got No Shotgun Hydrahead Octopus Blues" is full of punk anger, and another engaging listening experience. Great vocals, and I'd like to praise the guitar work too.
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 11:07 |
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And first thoughts on suitkees' second choice and out of competition, also on David + David as posted by George:
suitkees: Têtes Raides and Noir Désir “Noir desir:
Rapid-speed in almost a punk rock style, but with different
instrumentation than would be with a punk band and more sophistication. (out of competition) Têtes Raides “Civili” Again almost a punk style and also along the
same lines of dissatisfaction with the way things are, this time with some
violin thrown in and shimmery bits scattered here and there. Both of these two have a strong sense of
pulling no punches and making a similar point of frustration and
dissatisfaction with society and government. George: David + David “Welcome to the Boomtown” I actually do remember hearing this on the
radio then and the scenes in the video are very familiar from my time in LA at
that time, kind of nostalgic for me. Certainly
a cynical look at Hollywood in particular and LA in general. |
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And thank you once again for the playlist!
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@Nickie: Good to hear you liked these. I didn't put in any additional information before, so here are some notes about the two artists. Algiers is a relatively new band (since 2012) from Atlanta. Lyrics are politically charged in a broad sense. They don't address any specific events or moments. Three full length albums so far, with the most recent "There Is No Year" released January of 2020, aptly titled and released pre-Covid. "Dispossession" comes from that album. Recommend that album and their self-titled first. Second one "The Underside of Power" is good, but I prefer the other two. David Baerwald was one half of David + David, a duo that had a moderately successful debut album in the mid '80s and then broke up. Some of you might know this song that got some good airplay at the time. A social commentary on life in L.A. The "Got No Shotgun Hydrahead Octopus Blues" is from his second solo album Triage from the early 90's. I'd say the song is a reaction to the whole Iran-Contra mess and the government at the time. As a whole, that is a great album. Had thought about posting some of his other songs in the singer-songwriter poll from a while back, so good to have this poll where this song fits in. Edited by mathman0806 - January 09 2021 at 10:19 |
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 09:57 |
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Playlist (just the nominees) link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx73auWtq6G-_HnTlYRP70Vx
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