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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20698 |
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I'm a trad kind of guy so....
Drake-River Man KC-21st Century.... ELP-Trilogy ,,,,but Drake of those 3..... that song and most of his work is deeply emotional and at times heartbreaking.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6070 |
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And thank you, Kees, for your Byrd vote and also the commentary.
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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For me, the most interesting thing of these "interactive polls" is discovering - for me - new music, so normally I also vote for the ones I didn't know yet, as I will do now. All tracks were a very good listen (thanks for the playlist, George!), but these three were the most pleasurable new discoveries: - Donald Byrd - Cristo Redentor (wonderful, captivating jazz...) -
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6070 |
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Thank you, Mirakaze, and also for your thoughts.
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Mirakaze ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Eclectic, JRF/Canterbury, Avant/Zeuhl Joined: December 17 2019 Location: (redacted) Status: Offline Points: 4276 |
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I'm not ordering my votes; these should all be seen as three-way tie: - I haven't really delved into Nick Drake's music before but "River Man" is truly beautiful. The chord progression is lovely and becomes truly awe-inspiring once the strings set in. I can totally get how this sparks strong emotions in people, and taken together with Greg's story and Drake's own tragic life, this ended up getting to me as well. - "Cristo Redentor". Again, just wonderful. The mournful choral introduction and the sax and piano solos feel like they're in worlds of their own and yet they somehow blend splendidly. The parts that are in G Minor remind me a bit of "The Great Gig In The Sky". - Well, if I am not to exclude songs that I know well, how can I not vote for "21st Century Schizoid Man" when it's one of the songs that turned me into the proghead I am today? It's still a masterpiece 52 years down the line. Honourable mention goes to "Din Nou Acasă" which didn't quite hit me on the same emotional level as the three songs above but it's still a perfectly fine little prog ditty that I didn't know yet, so thanks
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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@Christian @Mike You have touched on the matter very well. Springsteen plays heartland rock / folk and blues. His songs are conventional (even if they constitute a synthesis, a very composite mixture of black and white music) and so lovers of prog or cultured, electronic, avant-garde, jazz, etc. music do not like them very much. But seeing him live is a very different experience than listening to his records. Leaving aside the technical skill of him and the members of the band, Springsteen plays 4 hours in concerts. The first time I saw him, in 1988, he took a 40 minute break between first and second part of the concert, so he played 3 hours 20 minutes. With the passage of time, he has removed the interval and therefore the concert has no breaks and last 3,45 hours. You see he never wants to stop playing. See how sorry he has to go away. Five or six years ago, at the age of 67-68, I saw him do the somersault on stage after more than 3 hours of concert. Tom Morello, 15 years younger than him, said that the Rage Against the Machine concerts were pure adrenaline rush, they were as searing as a 100m run. The concerts with Springsteen were a surprise for him because he discovered that he was not trained, he compared them to an endurance race that, at the beginning, put him in great difficulty physically and mentally. All of this has little to do with music. A person may prefer a one and a half hour concert played by... God to a Springsteen concert, longer but perhaps not perfectly played. It is legitimate. In fact, I'm not talking about the musical content or the performance of the instrumentalists. I'm talking about the emotional matter, the soul and the passion. Springsteen wants to give body and soul until exhaustion, otherwise he doesn't feel like a worker who has given his duty, as if he were a miner or a farmer. There is therefore a work ethic that drives Springsteen concerts. But it is not only this, because Springsteen, like many introverted actors or artists, is a person who struggles to confide in and talk to those who are close to him but at the same time when he goes on stage he opens his heart to the public in an incredible way. And therefore he does not want to interrupt the emotional communion that he establishes with the public, he wants to exasperate the songs in a crescendo that reaches the paroxysm, the sensation of a sonorous orgasm, when you lose control and reach moments similar to the ecstasy of meditation. And so it happens that he transforms an acoustic and slow track like The Ghost of Tom Joad into an epic rock ballad with a mesmeric ending. And try to think what it's like to finish a 4-hour concert with a song like The Ghots of Tom Joad and then, after 15 minutes, while you are taking the stairs to exit the stadium, with the lights on, see that Bruce surprisingly returns to the stage, alone, guitar and harmonica, to sing one last song. It is happened to me. Edited by jamesbaldwin - September 18 2021 at 13:17 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 38611 |
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Thanks Tigerfeet for the words and song impressions, as well as others. Thanks George for the playlist and comments on the ordeal, and thanks to all for taking part in this. Regarding the known, while I decided to do one that was special to me that I had formerly nominated as I thought going for the known and asking people not to discount the known from voting would make it easier when it comes to speed, a part of still wanted to do something I hadn't mentioned (The Rocky Horror Picture Show track). It was all a bit of an experiment. I really appreciate all of the nominations and comments.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6070 |
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Thank you again for the votes for Donald Byrd. Glad so many enjoyed it.
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TCat ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 07 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 11612 |
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This is tough to vote on as there are several favorites offered up here that are clear winners, but that I am already so familiar with. I feel exactly like Lewian described (better than I ever could) about the familiar selections here, but I find I have a very difficult time voting on them since I am already very familiar with them. Among them are Nick Drake, King Crimson, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Beach Boys, and etc. So, only because of my own preferential way of voting for these polls, I'm going to stick with the ones that I was not already familiar with.
1. Donald Byrd - Cristo Redentor I must say I enjoyed this one very much, especially those solo sections. I could listen to this all day. 2. Sound of Contact - Not Coming Down This one took me by surprise in that I enjoyed it a lot more than I ever expected. I'll be looking up more from this band and it's members. 3. Bruce Springsteen /Tom Morello - The Ghost of Tom Joad (live) I was familiar with the studio version of this track, but not this performance which is absolutely amazing. I've been a fan of Tom Morello and his guitar stylings, which I got introduced to through the band "Audioslave" before I moved onto "Rage Against the Machine". There is a level of passion here that makes you want to cheer as if you are actually there. What a performance!
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 46700 |
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my three votes Donald Byrd - Cristo Redentor Sound of Contact - Not Coming Down
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6070 |
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Nice to see much more commentary here, perhaps because there were only one entry at a time, made it easier? That, for me, is what makes these polls. This week was way too hectic for me to spend the time creating a new poll and commenting as is my usual on this one, so thank you to Greg for the idea of a lightning poll to take up the gap. Everyone's stories were also compelling.
Thank you for the Byrd vote, Christian. And I have to agree with you re live performance videos, I much prefer those to art videos really, which I think can distract from the music and leave less to the listener's imagination. I often just listen to the music here, without watching the videos, although some I have also found moving along with the video. "Nowhere Man," a lovely, thoughtful Beatles song (kind of ironic, thinking of Yellow Submarine being a full-length video, utilizing the song within it, with my prior comment). The Beatles do hold a special place in my heart, they so reflect the changing times I experienced in my life, in real time, along with them. And thank you as usual to George, for the playlist. |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6848 |
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To note, Simon Collins is Phil's son from Phil's first marriage. Phil has another son, Nick, who is playing drums on the current Genesis tour. Here's a 1998 performance of Simon and Phil drumming together at a benefit concert with former tennis pros John McEnroe on guitar and Yannick Noah on vocals. |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6848 |
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As to the poll. My votes:
1. The Beach Boys - 'Til I Die: Had not heard this before. I found it very powerful in Wilson's lyrics through the harmonies. 2. Bruce Springsteen /Tom Morello - The Ghost of Tom Joad (live): This gets my vote for the performance. I enjoy Morello's guitar work though felt a little out of place at the end. Actually, had been listening to Morello's the Nightwatchman album "One Man Revolution" album recently. 3. Vlatko Stefanovski & Miroslav Tadic - Jovano, Jovanke |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6848 |
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Been reading through the posts and appreciate the stories shared and different perspectives.
Greg, what a terrible experience to have gone through. I could not imagine being in your place and having it unfold in real time. It's one thing to read what has happened, but entirely different when you have 'space' in time to let all your emotions twist and grow.
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6848 |
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I had been away from this thread for several days and have gone through the songs this morning and will be voting shortly. I made a playlist as I listened along so for anyone who hasn't voted yet.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15473 |
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Oh and here, out of competition, something I may have chosen after knowing more where this poll was going to go... more of a representation of at least a part of my personality ![]() |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15473 |
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The two other votes go to Sfinx and Donald Byrd, both touching, fitting my current mood, but also interesting. I don't think I had heard any Romanian prog before and this is very good, complex yet emotional. Also I'm an old Novalis fan and there is some clear connection. What connects it with Donald Byrd is the high musicality - Cristo Redentor is some kind of music that is really in some distance to my musical universe, but it immediately spoke to me. Honorable mention: Stefanovski & Tadic - obviously great stuff, maybe too easy to like... |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15473 |
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Given that there was an invitation this time to submit stuff that people may already know, and that I have a hard time comparing proved classics with stuff that I hear for the first time, and that I also like to acknowledge that somebody makes me aware of something that I hadn't known before even if maybe not quite at the level of personal appreciation that for example I have for Godspeed You Black Emperor (despite having no clue where to put the punctuation): I have decided to give out a special prize, one vote, among those I already know. Now the Nick Drake one impressed me a lot when Logan brought it up originally and made me buy that album, and the song hasn't lost any of its attraction to me. However I have voted for it once and that's enough. Then I've got to admit that I don't like 21st Century Schizoid Man that much. Yes I know it's super important, and King Crimson are even among my personal "big 5". In fact I've enjoyed numerous live renditions of it marvelling at what they make of their classic this time... Such songs of course develop their own dynamic over time and it can be very fascinating following it... but still, when it comes to the original, there are surely more than 30 KC tracks that I'd rank before it (meaning that I do like it, but not as much as a lot of other stuff). I know it's a major quality of it how raw and heavy it is, but it doesn't really resonate with my personal way of life. Goodspeed You Black Emperor, great band when I'm in the mood and today I'm not. I always like to listen to Jackson Browne, I love his voice and his melodies, but am not really a big fan, I find much of his music a bit too predictable. So that leaves me, somewhat to my own surprise, with a vote for Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Which actually also has a meaning to me as this was one of the great albums that my father had, which were among this first things I checked out when getting into music.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15473 |
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Before voting, I comment on Lorenzo's Bruce Springsteen entry. Well, I'm not going to be a fan of his music any time soon, but there is one respect in which this is great even for me. Despite loving some art, the best thing I can ever imagine watching with music is the musicians playing it, and living their music. Live videos are the best. The best live videos that is, and this one is glorious, they have so much fun and so much passion. I can totally see how a live experience like this can make a Springsteen fan for life. I will not vote for this as honestly the song doesn't do much for me, however the performance is phantastic and enjoyed big time watching it.
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