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I'm very impressed by the 2021 album Ske - Insolubilia. I'd insert this probably at rank 6 before Dedalus, if not higher.
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Also tried to do 12 different artists. Otherwise probably Battiato, Banco, Area would have some more.

Luciano Cilio - Dialoghi del Presente
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Banco - Darwin!
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Picchio dal Pozzo - s/t
Dedalus - s/t
Patrizio Fariselli - 100 Ghosts
Le Orme - Fellona e Sonora
Deus Ex Machina - De Republica
The Winstons - Smith
PFM - L'Isola di Niente
Angelo Branduardi - Concerto
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One RPI album per band.  No particular order. 

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso   Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)
PFM  -  Per Un Amico (1972)
Alphataurus  -  Alphataurus ( 1973)
Area  -  Arbeit Macht Frei (1973)
Le Orme  -  Felona E Sorona (1973)

Logos - L'Enigma Della Vita (2014)
Egonon- Risveglio (2011)
Unreal City- La Crudelta Di Aprile ( 2013)
La Maschera di Cera- S.E.I. (2020)
Melting Clock- Destinazioni  (2019)
Ingranaggi Della Valle- Warm Spaced Blue (2016)
La Coscienza Di Zeno- La Notte Anche Di Giorno (2015)
Nodo Gordiano- Sonnar ( 2020)
Il Cerchio D'Oro-  Il Fuoco Sotto La Cenere ( 2017)









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great, mellotronwave, and my welcome to you on PA forums
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hard to rank so :
PFM isola di niente/ PFM Cook/Banco Io sono nato libero/Aufklärung de la tempesta l'oscuro piacere/Il trono dei ricordi same/Le orme Felona and Sorona (italian version)/Celeste same/La maschera di cera Il grande labirinto/Banco del mutuo soccorso Banco (english version on Manticore rec)/Consorzio acque potabile Nei gorghi del tempo/Disilerie di malto Tempo dei piccolo discorsi
and surely a couple of dozens more   
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very fine, DDD
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I just had a look through this thread and can't see any mention of my favourite Italian bands, so I'd like to throw 3 more albums into the mix:

Areknames - Love Hate Round Trip
Daal - Decalogue of Darkness
Dark Quarterer - The Etruscan Prophecy
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I'm in the midst of listening to (and getting to like a lot!) a TON of RPI that I haven't heard [enough of] yet-- Cherry Five, Il Volo, Maxophone, Locanda Delle Fate, Cincinnato, Arti E Mestieri, Eneide, Il Bachio della Medusa  and Mad Crayon. What I have heard of these bands is great stuff! but my opinion of how they compare to what I already know is still "under construction".

Here's how I rate the Italian bands I'm already familiar with (1 album per band,)...

1. PFM  -  Per Un Amico
2. Il Baletto Di Bronzo  -  Ys
3. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso  -  Darwin!
4. Museo Rosenbach  -  Zarathustra (prefer 2012 version)
5. Osanna  -  Paleopoli
6. Alphataurus  -  Alphataurus
7. Area  -  Arbeit Macht Frei
8. Dedalus  -  (original)
9. Franco Battiato  -  Sulle Corde di Aires
10. Le Orme  -  Felona E Sorona
11. DFA - Work In Progress (live)
12. Universal Totem Orchestra  -  Mathematical Mother (Italian Zeuhl)
13. Goblin  -  Roller
14. New Trolls  -  Concerto Grosso Trilogy (Live)
15. 3 Monks  -  Neogothic Progressive Toccattas




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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

Another one is Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione. I partially agree with Mellotron Storm on this one. In my case probably not 2.5 stars but 3.5, still not a classic in my opinion. For me, too much classical pop orchestration on this album. 

I find it the same way - but see my top 160 list all-time based on all the ratings on RYM and PA for an exactly view of the matter in question, if you're interested. On this list are 15 Italian albums.

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- but one more very important thing to add here. My list consists only of one album per band so, there are a number of the highest rated albums which are not included in it.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

So, I think that I can conclude now, Enigmatic, that your Italian favourites include about all the albums which are highest rated on RYM and PA, considered all-together - I find that very impressive! 
I am sure there are some exceptions from this rule. Smile
I see plenty albums from new millennium that are on the top of PA highest rated Italian list. I don't dislike them, but I wouldn't put them on my Top list. The same with few highly regarded classics like:
Biglietto Per l'Inferno - s/t
Il Balletto di Bronzo - YS.
I don't care for the vocals on both albums. Too much screaming for my taste. Again, they are fine albums, I don't dislike them but I don't consider them as my favorites.
Another one is Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione. I partially agree with Mellotron Storm on this one. In my case probably not 2.5 stars but 3.5, still not a classic in my opinion. For me, too much classical pop orchestration on this album. 
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So, I think that I can conclude now, Enigmatic, that your Italian favourites include about all the albums which are highest rated on RYM and PA, considered all-together - I find that very impressive! 

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Part 2 then of my favorite Italian prog albums. I'd rate them as high as the albums from Part 1 listed above. Btw my favorite prog scene after British prog. After that Germany, France, Netherlands and probably Sweden because of few retro-prog bands that I really like.

In alphabetic order:
Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)
Area - Arbeit Macht Frei (1973)  
Area - Crac! (1975)  
Arti + Mestieri - Giro Di Valzer Per Domani (1975)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (1972)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)  
Celeste - s/t aka Principe Di Un Giorno (1976)  
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte dei Miracoli (1976)  
Finisterre - In Limine (1996)  
Genfuoco - Dentro l'Invisibile (1979)  
Metamorfosi - Inferno (1972)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)
Orme, Le - Felona e Sorona (1973)
Orme, Le - Uomo di Pezza (1972)
Pierrot Lunaire - Pierrot Lunaire (1974)  
Premiata Forneria Marconi - L'Isola di Niente (1974)
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Storia Di Un Minuto (1972)
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il Tempo della Gioia (1974)
Semiramis - Dedicato A Frazz (1973)  
Universal Totem Orchestra - Rituale Alieno (1999)  
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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

One album per band but... how to pick only 12 titles? Impossibile!

You're always very much welcomed to add some more. The mentioned number is only a suggestion. 
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One album per band but... how to pick only 12 titles? Impossibile!

In alphabetic order:

Alusa Fallax - Intorno Alla Mia Cattiva Educazione (1974)  
Arti + Mestieri Tilt (1974)  
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! (1972) 
Cervello - Melos (1973) 
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu (1977)
Maxophone - Maxophone (1975)
New Trolls Atomic System - New Trolls Atomic System (1973)  
Osanna - Palepoli (1973)  
Picchio Dal Pozzo - Picchio Dal Pozzo (1976)   
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per... Un Mondo Di Cristallo (1972)
Stormy Six - L'Apprendista (1977)
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)</span><div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)
Haven't heard Apoteosi, but this.
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Hi,

Again, I don't do albums, and I think I have not heard enough of the things listed. I'll make a decent effort to catch up!

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso  
Le Orme   
Premiata Forneria Marconi  
Biglietto/Baffo Banfi
Franco Battiato
Goblin
Sensation's Fix
Osanna

The saddest bit for me, was the mention of OSANNA in one other post. One of the bands that helped define this genre, and the band that PG copied when his group toured Italy with them, and they are still around, although (have to check) not quite as complete as they were then, or as theatrical.

Their doing this, also helped ANGE do their thing, although theirs is more centered on Brecht and Brel in the early days, but both DEcamps never lost their theatricality in their music. I'm not sure about OSANNA's versions, as I am not as familiar with Italian Literature and the arts, other than a whole bunch of operas ... gads ... we should do a poll on that!


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PFM - Per Un Amico
Le Orme - Felona E Serona
Ys- Il Balletto Di Bronzo
Logos - Sadako e le mille di carta
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
Ingranaggi - Warm Spaced Blue
Cherry Five - Cherry Five
Three Monks - The Legend of The Holy Circle
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Transiberiana
Randone - Ultreia (Canzoni Sulla Via- Atto 1)
Triade - 1998 - La Storia Di Sabazio
La Maschera Di Cera - S.E.I



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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

@Lorenzo: Do you know the Luciano Cilio album? I'd have thought you would like that.

Never listen to it.

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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

my first choice would have to be Inferno, by Metamorfosi, which seems to be sadly overlooked on this thread. .

I find it a great concept album myself, and at least it's a part of my opening list.


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