Never Mind the Bollocks.....

siLLy puPPy wrote: Cristi wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote:  In the case of glam metal, some of those bands really were bad. There is a time and place where something needs to change and the 1991 timeline was one of those times. On the bright side with grunge came the all things alternative era as well as prog revival. As i see it grunge was the last hurrah for the traditional music industry before the decentralized platform changed it all forever.   You are right. But the mocking of the '80s glam metal was often not deserved. Some bands were dropped by labels, some bands releasing music did not get any help with promotion, add the mockery from the music media, it must have been hard for quite a few musicians. It was not just glam that fell on hard times, but metal in general (and that's just ignorance if you ask me). Many bands did not know what to do next after 1991-92, they either became less heavy (and at times more commercial) or followed the trends of the times, often with not good results.  I disagree with that. One of the major reasons glam metal fell by the wayside was that the more extreme thrash, death and black metal bands were gaining popularity in the underground. While Poison and Bon Jovi were ruling the pop charts, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax were selling lots of albums and bringing metal into a more credible realm. Glam metal attracted the sell outs who simply played the game instead of focusing on inventive music. It became a cliche of itself. By 1991 extreme metal had already splintered into many styles of subgenres. The pace of musical evolution has quickened in the last few decades and artists that fail to keep up things will get swept by the wayside. Just the way it works. Glam metal was just too shallow with more philosophical bands growing in number. In some ways grunge was simply the easy listening section of the extreme metal universe that grew unnoticed by the masses into the juggernaut that it is today.

siLLy puPPy wrote:  In the case of glam metal, some of those bands really were bad. There is a time and place where something needs to change and the 1991 timeline was one of those times. On the bright side with grunge came the all things alternative era as well as prog revival. As i see it grunge was the last hurrah for the traditional music industry before the decentralized platform changed it all forever.

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Cristi wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote:  so why is it considered a competition nearly 50 years on?  there's still a competition?!  I didn't know that (I doubt it though )

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Never mind the bullocks, it's anarchy in the dairy farm...

Edited by David_D - December 12 2023 at 06:32

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Cactus Choir wrote: .....not the spotty green-haired herbert Johnny Rotten! Never mind the bullocks, it's anarchy in the dairy farm... Who would've guessed the spotty green-haired herbert would end up selling Country Life butter to spread the cost of living, presumably because he kneaded the bread. It can't be good for his Public Image though.

siLLy puPPy wrote: Punk did not die after three years, au contraire it simply splintered off into myriad sub-genres ranging from post-punk and new wave to art punk, Gothic rock and yes even progressive punk! Both punk and prog are still going strong so why is it considered a competition nearly 50 years on?

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Cactus Choir wrote: .....not the spotty green-haired herbert Johnny Rotten! Anarchy in the dairy farm... Who would've guessed the spotty green-haired herbert would end up selling Country Life butter to spread the cost of living, presumably because he kneaded the bread. It can't be good for his Public Image though.

My favourite Pistols track was Silly Thing, released after Lydon and Vicious had gone, which was more of a catchy hard rock song than punk. The Stranglers were the only "punk" band I really got into and bought albums by. Prog music was new to me at the time even though the bands had been around for a long time, and I found it exciting and interesting.

Edited by Cactus Choir - December 12 2023 at 04:33