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These right-wing champions fighting for freedom are apparently among those who want to reduce freedom.

This sort of thing confuses me about the concept of freedom in the USA.
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^^I guess I hit the nail on the head when I choose the name of this thread. Big smile
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^ Fascinating perspective. One can only hope it's correct.
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When Roe v Wade was overturned, abortion was not outlawed.  It puts decisions on abortion laws in the hands of individual states. 

Most Republican Representatives/Senators are part of the DEM/GOP uni-party. What's that got to do with abortion?  Allow me to digress...

Senator Lindsey Graham is a uni-party Republican.  He votes with the Democrats for more war, billions for Ukraine, and spying on Americans. Non-uni-party Republican, Senator Rand Paul always votes opposite of Graham on those issues.  Graham said, "Fight to the last Ukrainian".  Last election, Graham sabotaged Republican party elections.  How?  Right before the elections, Graham tried to put forth legislation to outlaw all abortions. 
 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/13/sen-lindsey-graham-introduces-bill-to-ban-most-abortions-nationwide-after-15-weeks.html

Graham knew that threatening to outlaw abortions nationwide would get pro-abortion Democrats off the sofa and out to vote in droves. It worked. Graham would rather Democrats control Congress than anti-war Republicans. Graham doesn't worry about his Senate seat...he gets voted in every six years, and Graham won't run again till 2026. Graham went quiet after the 2022 elections, but he's back, pulling the same trick. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lindsey-graham-says-trump-making-013903642.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Trump's stance? Leave abortion decisions up to the States.  Graham wants to sabotage Trump and anti-war Republicans by endorsing a draconian nationwide abortion ban.  

Bottom line. There are huge divisions within the Republican party.  Keri Lake and Graham have different agendas even though they both have a R behind their name.  Graham wants Lake to lose.  
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, let me try to understand this: Republicans denounce an abortion ban they once supported, but block an effort to repeal this same ban... Ermm

Do they still know themselves what they stand for? Or: do voters know what the GOP stands for?

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So, let me try to understand this: Republicans denounce an abortion ban they once supported, but block an effort to repeal this same ban... Ermm

Do they still know themselves what they stand for? Or: do voters know what the GOP stands for?

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Hi,

I think that the Republicans think that dysfunction is t their advantage, since it takes logic and understanding out of the equation, and this gives them a better chance. In the end, if it all starts to crumble, and it will soon enough when Mr. T is not there anymore, it will likely create a situation for a party that ... has lost its way, and will, likely, have a hard time, getting new votes.

But, America is tough, and not having an alternate media that actually speaks hurts ... and I don't know that folks appreciate that ... the 60's, at least, had a lot of alternative publications that really helped a lot of artists, musicians, writers ... only to all of them being crushed in the next 10 years. The best, and most interesting example was The LA Free Press, which you could almost say was the main reason why Frank Zappa was noticed in the first place, and then ... here came VietNam ... and .... 
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The GOP Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson told CNN at the House GOP retreat in West Virginia last week. “I am vehemently opposed to member-on-member action in primaries because it’s not productive.

I wonder if his son got an alert on his phone over this. Evil SmileLOL
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It's interesting that every Trump supporter I knew, though not many, have all quietly moved away or stopped coming around.   But that's the Right Wing for you-- try to destroy Democracy and when that doesn't work... Run Away! Run Away!

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Ah, the Republican attitude towards Democracy...
Originally posted by <a href=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/09/roger-stone-eric-swalwell-jerry-nadler-die-mediate target=_blank rel=nofollow>The Guardian</a> The Guardian wrote:

The Republican operative and close Donald Trump ally Roger Stone reportedly told an associate one of two prominent Democratic congressmen “ha[d] to die before the election” in 2020.

“It’s time to do it,” Stone said, according to Mediaite, which cited a recording the outlet reported was made at a Florida restaurant.

“Let’s go find Swalwell. It’s time to do it. Then we’ll see how brave the rest of them are. It’s time to do it. It’s either Nadler or Swalwell has to die before the election. They need to get the message. Let’s go find Swalwell and get this over with. I’m just not putting up with this sh*t any more.”

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Republicans that are damning US aid to Ukraine are swearing US support of arms for Israel now. How will this work out from the two faced crowd?
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Most Democrat and Republican House Representatives and Senate are members of a Uni-Party.  They become rich and powerful off the backs of American taxpayers.  It's all Kabuki theater.  Most Americans don't understand that the real struggle is a class struggle.  The Democrat/GOP Representatives and Senate have more in common with each other than they do with their constituents.  

The Uni-party succeeded in goading the people of the opposite political parties to hate each other.  Divide and conquer. 

Although I wouldn't use the label of Uni-Party, I think I see what you mean and in some way it is very similar here in France. The traditionally dominating (two) parties are very much divided (the traditional ping-pong games between them, but also the divisions within each of the parties), but they find common ground in their common interests: staying in power/keeping one's seat in Parliament. Many of those elected delegates seem to be more interested in keeping their position than in serving the public interest.
However, at least in several countries here in Europe, this has led to a loss of dominance of the traditional ruling parties, in favor - often, and in my opinion unfortunately - of populist parties. In a way, those populist parties denounce an outdated mode of governance of the traditional ruling parties, and rightly so, but they generally propose in exchange a rather undemocratic alternative. In the mean time several corruption cases have undermined the credibility of those new or upcoming political movements, which has undermined even more the eventual confidence the population could have in their political representatives.

Nevertheless, I think we need this kind of representative democracies to govern our countries; it still seems to me better than autocracies or dictatorship. The good thing of our modern times is that things get more and more transparent and corruption easier to detect. It is now our - us citizen's - task to fight against idiocy...

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Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Any form of government will work if it contains a moral populace.  The leader will have some affect but not as much as you may think.  You can have a dictatorship under Budha, or Krishna or Christ or any noble person you can think of, if majority of the people are highly immoral it will fail.

Democracy and capitalism can be a beautiful thing under the right circumstances.  I see a lot of folks praising democracy but not understanding what that really means. Or willing to give it up temporarily due to fear.

Leadership has 2 main qualities.  A good leader will try to unite, not divide. During a crisis a good leader will try to calm and deescalate the situation, not instill fear and make it worse.  Open and Honest communication is also highly desired in a good leader.

A tyrant’s strategy is to divide and conquer, and instilling fear is his greatest weapon.

Who wielded that weapon better, Trump or Biden?  Neither really mattered as the overall vibration of the people spits out its leaders.  Change of heart elevates vibration, which in turn will produce an honorable leader.



You've hit the nail on the head a few times and once again your hammer has struck!
Indeed all the problems we encounter are due to the degradation of human morality.
Sorta like Lord of the Rings. Men are too weak to wield the ring of power and fall to greed.
I disagree that you can have a dictatorship under spiritual leaders.
Freewill seems to be a major component of the universe and forges a sort of spiritual contracting system.
The role of a spiritual leader is to convince others to volunteer their will to their cause.
Unfortunately most modern spiritual leaders have fallen to darkness and no Frodo in sight.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I might actually have to register to vote after years of dropping out ;)

You probably should check out the numbers on voter registration cards. We wouldn't want to see you accidentally be owned by the corporation. Barring that, there's probably some patent somewhere or a maritime law that says becoming a voter is the same thing as becoming an employee. I'm inside a group of 82 circles and all I have are my farts to protect me.


LOL Great points! Nice try but Maritime Law is contract law and yes, voting is voting for a CEO of the US corporation but might be temporarily worth it if someone can actually upset the apple cart. We all need to start fart groups. If only everyone could see that's the way!  Seriously though Dr Shiva is the only one who is qualified to run a massive nation state such as the US. Four degrees from MIT with one in systems sciences, one in biological engineering and a desire to teach the masses how to create a grounds up movement. The best thing since Malcolm X.


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Any form of government will work if it contains a moral populace.  The leader will have some affect but not as much as you may think.  You can have a dictatorship under Budha, or Krishna or Christ or any noble person you can think of, if majority of the people are highly immoral it will fail.

Democracy and capitalism can be a beautiful thing under the right circumstances.  I see a lot of folks praising democracy but not understanding what that really means. Or willing to give it up temporarily due to fear.

Leadership has 2 main qualities.  A good leader will try to unite, not divide. During a crisis a good leader will try to calm and deescalate the situation, not instill fear and make it worse.  Open and Honest communication is also highly desired in a good leader.

A tyrant’s strategy is to divide and conquer, and instilling fear is his greatest weapon.

Who wielded that weapon better, Trump or Biden?  Neither really mattered as the overall vibration of the people spits out its leaders.  Change of heart elevates vibration, which in turn will produce an honorable leader.
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Most Democrat and Republican House Representatives and Senate are members of a Uni-Party.  They become rich and powerful off the backs of American taxpayers.  It's all Kabuki theater.  Most Americans don't understand that the real struggle is a class struggle.  The Democrat/GOP Representatives and Senate have more in common with each other than they do with their constituents.  

The Uni-party succeeded in goading the people of the opposite political parties to hate each other.  Divide and conquer. 
Dems and Repubs are part of a Uni-party? Well, you could have fooled me.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Most Democrat and Republican House Representatives and Senate are members of a Uni-Party.  They become rich and powerful off the backs of American taxpayers.  It's all Kabuki theater.  Most Americans don't understand that the real struggle is a class struggle.  The Democrat/GOP Representatives and Senate have more in common with each other than they do with their constituents.  

The Uni-party succeeded in goading the people of the opposite political parties to hate each other.  Divide and conquer. 
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I might actually have to register to vote after years of dropping out ;)

You probably should check out the numbers on voter registration cards. We wouldn't want to see you accidentally be owned by the corporation. Barring that, there's probably some patent somewhere or a maritime law that says becoming a voter is the same thing as becoming an employee. I'm inside a group of 82 circles and all I have are my farts to protect me.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

For those who (prefer to) believe in "alternative facts": there is still some hope for you...

Getting back to the OP's topic: Republicans continue to inflict chaos on themselves and on the US of A. Are there still Republicans left who work for the well-being of their country?

Did you know the term "conspiracy theory" was created by the CIA to shut down anyone who questioned their official narrative?

No, I didn't know that, because it is not true (see also There’s a conspiracy theory that the CIA invented the term ‘conspiracy theory’ – here’s why). It seems to be an "alternative fact" that a "true researcher" would not have adopted because he checks and double checks his data (sources).

My theory is that someone uses "alternative facts" in order to push a narrative that serves specific interests and/or beliefs that are going against the - established - facts.

And this...
Quote All one really needs to do to paint a crystal clear picture is follow two things: patents and money trails. Those are unequivocal verifiers of reality. 
...seems to me a very hazardous claim about reality, because what "reality" is seems to have been brought down to only these parameters in order to build up a narrative for which one is going to find "proof". This is what "true researchers" call tunnel-vision. And claiming that they are "unequivocal verifiers of reality" is something a "true researcher" would never claim about something that by nature is not unequivocal.
"Reality" is a much more complex phenomenon and created/constituted by a multiplicity of narratives... is my theory (but not only mine...).

Quote The denial of certain conspiracies is exactly why the world is in the mess it is right now.

Maybe, but the adoption or certain conspiracy theories is definitely contributing to that too.



So you prefer to believe a website that makes a claim rather than CIA whistleblowers themselves? Both ex-CIA whisteblowers Kevin Schipp as well as Robert David Steele amongst others have disclosed these things to the public and not only that but have explained how they exactly work in great detail with documentation.

The world is run by dark psychologists intel intelligence units that work together like a swarm to steer the public's consciousness in their desired direction.

Whether or not the actually claim is true or not does not matter as much as that you simply dismissed the possibility that has more tangibility than a silly website that has no way of verifying its claims.
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Ermm

Wow, I only countered your claim that "the term "conspiracy theory" was created by the CIA". You're completely free to believe in the "alternative fact" that it was the CIA who created it, but your rant is grotesquely besides the point that I made.

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