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Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn >> Saucerful of Secrets

IMO it's almost two different bands. Just to backtrack my entry point into the Floyd was Meddle - not long afterwards I first heard Piper and couldn't believe how different they sounded with Syd in the band.

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Queen : Jazz > The Game >>> Hot Space
E, L & P : Brian Salad Surgery >> Works Vol 1/2 >>>>>>> Love Beach
Steve Hackett : Defector >>> Cured
Rush: I Phase > II Phase > III Phase
Deep Purple : Deep Purple album >>> In Rock
Opeth : Deliverance > Damnation
Marillion: Fish era >>> Hogarth era
Genesis : From Genesis to Revelations >>>> Trespass
Genesis : Wind & Wuthering >>> ...And Then There Were Three...
Yes : Time and a Word >>> The Yes Album
Yes : Drama >>> 90125
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

From Moving Pictures to Signals. A huge shift in sound with the synths dominating on Signals. And this was personal for me. Signals was so different, I just couldn't get into it back then, but taking a break from it and then returning for round two at least allowed me to appreciate it for what it is. I started to like the songs. And it grew from there.


Roll the Bones to Counterparts was also a significant shift … to less synths and a bit of grunge.

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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

In fact, lots of classic prog acts incorporate elements of pop (in the context of the era) all the time.

yep that's called good songwriting. Current day's prog could learn a thing or two from that, instead of constructing meaningless riff puzzles with endless speed-of-sound soloing
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Yeah, I don't think of that as a big change. Sort of a myth amongst the progheads who just think of ATTWT as a step down in quality from W&W. In terms of sound, they aren't that different. The biggest change (as in, non-gradual) between Genesis albums in terms of overall sound has to be their first album to Trespass. The rest of their changes have been very gradual over time. Outside of Follow You Follow Me, what song on ATTWT sounds like pop to the point where the prog/art rock roots are undetectable? And what song on W&W doesn't include any elements of pop whatsoever? The latter album even has Your Own Special Way and Afterglow that can qualify as "pop" too. In fact, lots of classic prog acts incorporate elements of pop (in the context of the era) all the time.
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Originally posted by FloydCrafty FloydCrafty wrote:

I think Genesis, Wind and Wuthering to ...And Then There Were Three...
A huge transition from their progressive rock roots to their modern pop songs.


Interesting perspective. Genesis has roots in pop. From Genesis to Revelation is a pop album, albeit of a much more baroque pop than modern pop persuasion. Pop was a part of Genesis throughout, and the pop qualities of Wind and Wuthering has not struck me as that different from the pop qualities of ...And Then There Were Three. And both have Prog qualities. It has not struck me as a really huge or really unexpected shift of style.
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I think Genesis, Wind and Wuthering to ...And Then There Were Three...
A huge transition from their progressive rock roots to their modern pop songs.



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I was going to mention the Italian band Dedalus jump from the fusion of their selftitled debut to the mad free jazz of the subsequent one..but I see it has already been mentioned.
Keeping with the Italians though, I find the jump from Claudio Rocchi’s early folky roots to first ambient and then all out corrosive progressive electronic with Suoni di Frontiera to be quite earthshattering. Is it even the same guy???

Another Italian that changed his style quite significantly from one album to the next is Franco Battiato. Sure the man was experimenting with minimalism on both Sulle Corde Di Aries and Clíc, but the subsequent M. Elle Le Gladiator was still like the proverbial punch to the gut. Going from experimental almost Krautrocking prog to no guitars, no bass and no drums..but church organ and synths was quite the artistic u-turn.
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From Jade Warrior ....Last Autumn's Dream to Floating World.
The early albums contained Rock songs with the influence of Asia music. The piece "Dark River" is a good example of this.

When Jon Field and Tony Duhig signed with Island they extended more on the influence of Asia music and remained an instrumental band releasing the following:

Floating World
Waves
Kites
Way Of The Sun
Horizon
At Peace
Breathing The Storm
Distant Echoes
....until reforming with singer Glyn Harvard and returning to their early style ..but with a more modern sound..


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From Camel Moonmadness to Rain Dances. There was a change in direction. They sounded more jazzy on Rain Dances . Also a bit more Pop oriented. "Highways Of The Sun" sounding the most commercial and I began remembering the style on The Snow Goose or White Rider from Mirage...which wasn't a commercial style. On Rain Dances the Pop style began to surface.

From Raindances to Breathless. By the time Breathless was released it was evident that they were making attempts or efforts to write hit records.

I Can See Your House From Here was another attempt at perhaps writing a song that would chart.

Nude, Single Factor and Stationary Traveller ...all 3 seemed to have similarities to Alan Parsons Project.

From Stationary Traveller to Dust And Dreams. A huge change in composition. Dust and Dreams, Harbour Of Tears, Rajaz, and A Nod And A Wink all seemed geared toward Latimers writing style...which!!...had matured even more alongside some of the instrumentals that reflected pieces from Camel's past...such as "Lunar Sea"....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2025 at 16:05
How about Mike Oldfield from Incantations to Platinum and his 80's albums? I'm sure he had many other dramatic leaps in his sound from one album to the next. Rick Wakeman should have some very notable changes of sound between some of his albums, going from prog rock (or at least rock) to solo piano or New Age.

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Within 5 years?

Jethro Tull's This Was (1968)

To 

Aqualung (1971), Thick as a Brick (1972), A Passion Play (1973)

They went from a pseudo-Cream-style blues rock band to a hard rock/folk/prog stadium chameleon monster.

Hell, one could say the approach of Stand Up (1969) was a radical departure from This Was.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.


The band is Janus, although I believe that Out of Time came out before Journey. that's huge gap between albums. Journey came out in 1991 and Gravedigger in 1972. Different times.


The OP said no albums with a gap longer than 5 years. It makes sense.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.


The band is Janus, although I believe that Out of Time came out before Journey. that's huge gap between albums. Journey came out in 1991 and Gravedigger in 1972. Different times.
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Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.
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Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:


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however my personal preference was in the deepness of Bridget Wishart. I liked her costumes ...her theatrics...her masks!! and renditions of Robert Calvert songs. I really liked her emulation and original style the best. She could role play characters and her stage presence was unique in Hawkwind.


Hi,

Not sure what the whole thing was about, but she was definitely a special touch in the life of Hawkwind, but it never got off that macho thing in loudness, and not allow for Bridget to shine even more and that album is really good and has some far out touches ... but I suppose that DB thought it would sidetrack the "trip" for the band ... something that nowadays, looks a bit ridiculous and very silly, and for me, the band died after those albums. I have not enjoyed listening to anything since, and in fact, stopped buying altogether, including side albums.


That is very sad and I agree with you. Hawkwind did have a good run of albums from different time periods. The early albums were unique and then by 1975 they used a Mellotron on Hall Of The Mountain Grill and then Warrior On The Edge Of Time. Hawkwind and Man toured the U.S. together in 74' and then things changed when Bob Calvert became the frontman for Hawkwind and wrote stories about the future...which I found fascinating.

After Calvert Hugh Lloyd Langton who had a brief stay and appeared on the first album..returned...and along with Ginger Baker the Levitation album along with 5 or 6 more albums was a good run of material. Then Bridget Wishart...then Hawkwind as a 3 piece band...then Ron Tree joining which was okay...however I wasn't thrilled with the direction they took thereafter. Arthur Brown would sometimes perform with the band and forget the words to the songs...then Blood Of The Earth...Insomnia and others were not magical to me. I can certainly understand why fans of Hawkwind would like those albums and perhaps it's just my preference and they didn't grow on me. I wish I could still enjoy their music. I was always thrilled over the idea that they hired real Sci-Fi writers to create concepts and of course lyricism
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

He might still have not come down from his last LSD trip (whenever that was), but he's not drunk. 
Dude, I mean high, not drunk. xD I was being tongue in cheek anwyway.



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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:


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however my personal preference was in the deepness of Bridget Wishart. I liked her costumes ...her theatrics...her masks!! and renditions of Robert Calvert songs. I really liked her emulation and original style the best. She could role play characters and her stage presence was unique in Hawkwind.


Hi,

Not sure what the whole thing was about, but she was definitely a special touch in the life of Hawkwind, but it never got off that macho thing in loudness, and not allow for Bridget to shine even more and that album is really good and has some far out touches ... but I suppose that DB thought it would sidetrack the "trip" for the band ... something that nowadays, looks a bit ridiculous and very silly, and for me, the band died after those albums. I have not enjoyed listening to anything since, and in fact, stopped buying altogether, including side albums.
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