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Poll Question: Which albums do you prefer? (up to 3 votes allowed)
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


A few songs on the album i find progressive.


Most people seem to cite Cinema and Changes but I would add Hearts to that list which to me sounds kind of like a sequel to Awaken. Overall, it's proggy but not full blown prog (ditto the first Asia album).


The fact that it's not full-on prog does not affect my listening enjoyment. I enjoy the song-writing, that's all .



I'm pretty sure that's all was Genesis.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I would add Hearts to that list which to me sounds kind of like a sequel to Awaken.






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The sequel that ends the franchise maybe.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I would add Hearts to that list which to me sounds kind of like a sequel to Awaken.




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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


A few songs on the album i find progressive.


Most people seem to cite Cinema and Changes but I would add Hearts to that list which to me sounds kind of like a sequel to Awaken. Overall, it's proggy but not full blown prog (ditto the first Asia album).


The fact that it's not full-on prog does not affect my listening enjoyment. I enjoy the song-writing, that's all .

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, there's no way I could vote for 90125 over ABWH. I suspect those who voted for 90125 and not ABWH have either not heard ABWH or are on this site by accident and are not real prog fans. :p I also voted for Misplaced Childhood and Moving Pictures.


I disagree here. I for one could never get into ABWH. And I've tried a few times. Wasted time...

I've always loved 90125.



That's fine as long as you don't consider 90125 a prog album.


A few songs on the album i find progressive.


Most people seem to cite Cinema and Changes but I would add Hearts to that list which to me sounds kind of like a sequel to Awaken. Overall, it's proggy but not full blown prog (ditto the first Asia album).

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've been looking for a similar list for 90s prog but can't seem to find one. If anyone finds one let me know and I'll do a poll for that or you can do it yourself.


maybe something here will help.

I did not find one for Loudersound, but I did find this from Album of the Year which is yet another list based on charts, but then one could do Prog Archives or rateYournmusic:

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/user-highest-rated/1990s/progressive-rock/

More like what you posted in terms of approach, I found this. I think this one might fit your bill fairly well (a reasonably comparable approach I have seen to the Nick Shilton of Loudersound list you posted) from John Cunningham at WhatCulture :

https://whatculture.com/music/10-essential-1990s-progressive-rock-music-albums

Number one is Hybris, which seems very sensible to me.

And here is Jordan Blum's article of Loudwire's 12 best progressive metal album of the 90s:

https://loudwire.com/best-prog-metal-albums-1990s/

It has Dream Theater, Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory in top spot and Opeth's Still Life in second spot.

And here is list of the top 90s albums that I think that guy from loudersound might want to cover (what a year 1991 is):

Asia - Aqua (1991)
Rush - Roll the Bones (1991)
Yes - Union (1991)
Supertramp - Some Things Never Change (1997)
Marillion - Holidays in Eden (1991)
ELP - In the Hot Seat (1994)
Pink Floyd - The Division Bell (1994)
It Bites - Thank You and Goodnight (1991, live)
ABWH: An Evening of Yes Music Plus (1993, live)
World Trade - Euphoria (1995)



Thank you very much Logan. I might use some of these to compile my own list. I don't think I'll include live albums though.

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If forced to vote for those listed, I would choose these:
Rush - Moving Pictures
Emerson Lake & Powell - same
Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound

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^As I've said many times before: Music fans have better taste and greater knowledge than the average rock journalist. The non-curated charts on PA, RYM, Album of the Year etc... are far superior to those made by the "professionals".
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've been looking for a similar list for 90s prog but can't seem to find one. If anyone finds one let me know and I'll do a poll for that or you can do it yourself.


maybe something here will help.

I did not find one for Loudersound, but I did find this from Album of the Year which is yet another list based on charts, but then one could do Prog Archives or rateYournmusic:

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/user-highest-rated/1990s/progressive-rock/

More like what you posted in terms of approach, I found this. I think this one might fit your bill fairly well (a reasonably comparable approach I have seen to the Nick Shilton of Loudersound list you posted) from John Cunningham at WhatCulture :

https://whatculture.com/music/10-essential-1990s-progressive-rock-music-albums

Number one is Hybris, which seems very sensible to me.

And here is Jordan Blum's article of Loudwire's 12 best progressive metal album of the 90s:

https://loudwire.com/best-prog-metal-albums-1990s/

It has Dream Theater, Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory in top spot and Opeth's Still Life in second spot.

And here is list of the top 90s albums that I think that guy from loudersound might want to cover (what a year 1991 is):

Asia - Aqua (1991)
Rush - Roll the Bones (1991)
Yes - Union (1991)
Supertramp - Some Things Never Change (1997)
Marillion - Holidays in Eden (1991)
ELP - In the Hot Seat (1994)
Pink Floyd - The Division Bell (1994)
It Bites - Thank You and Goodnight (1991, live)
ABWH: An Evening of Yes Music Plus (1993, live)
World Trade - Euphoria (1995)
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, there's no way I could vote for 90125 over ABWH. I suspect those who voted for 90125 and not ABWH have either not heard ABWH or are on this site by accident and are not real prog fans. :p I also voted for Misplaced Childhood and Moving Pictures.


I disagree here. I for one could never get into ABWH. And I've tried a few times. Wasted time...

I've always loved 90125.



That's fine as long as you don't consider 90125 a prog album.


A few songs on the album i find progressive.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, there's no way I could vote for 90125 over ABWH. I suspect those who voted for 90125 and not ABWH have either not heard ABWH or are on this site by accident and are not real prog fans. :p I also voted for Misplaced Childhood and Moving Pictures.


I disagree here. I for one could never get into ABWH. And I've tried a few times. Wasted time...

I've always loved 90125.



That's fine as long as you don't consider 90125 a prog album.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, there's no way I could vote for 90125 over ABWH. I suspect those who voted for 90125 and not ABWH have either not heard ABWH or are on this site by accident and are not real prog fans. :p I also voted for Misplaced Childhood and Moving Pictures.


I disagree here. I for one could never get into ABWH. And I've tried a few times. Wasted time...

I've always loved 90125.

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BTW, I think that Loudersound should've listed Floyd's last great album Final Cut, instead of listing that Floyd-travesty Permanent Lapse of Reason (a Gilmour solo album)

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:


I still haven't heard Brother Where You Bound even though I own all of the 74-79 Supertramp albums on cd. Is Brother typically considered to be the best post Hodgson ST album?


Barry Robinson ( Classic Album Review) rates Brother Where You Bound quite highly. I remember another Prog reviewer giving Brother good marks, although I can't remember exactly whom ( maybe Scott from The Prog Corner, but don't quote me on that).

Apart from the longish track on the album I don't find Brother Where You Bound that interesting personally. A lot of the magic walked out the door with Hodgson. Rick Davies was certainly the anchor in the band but it would be a bit like The Beatles carrying on without Macca. IMO.


BWYB is the only post-Hodgson album (and it's a monster) just like Roger's Eye of the Storm is the only album worth having around.

BWYB is a (very) musically-brilliant and politically-angry album (Cold War & Reaganomics) much in the same mould that Floyd's Final Cut was. (the link is David Gilmour, who played on both). Lyrics-depth-wise, only Crime of the Century rivals with BWYB.
Both albums should also be viewed via the videos, for a better understanding of what is meant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N15Bos4O9KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_dA479MCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvfoyXfcwVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4hU43Wowk

TBH, I don't miss Roger at all in that album... and sadly, he's not really needed (Gorham & Gilmour played guitars) and Helliwell doesn't even try to sing like Hodgson at all.


Hodgson's ITEOTStorm is rather good as well, but the mood is depressing - whereas it's angers that dominate BWYB. The constant whining seems to echoes Roger's mood in FLW with Raining gain, Don't Leave Me Now, etc...).
Both albums are quite proggy, IMHO.


Soooo, BWYB is Davies' magnum opus, and as such, it's only even more of a shame that he f**ked up with the following Free As A Bird (only the album's name is good and its better track is ironically called An Awful Thing To Waste)











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If I believed this was the Ten Essential 80's Prog albums, there would be no reason to investigate the decade any further. But to me it surely isn't, as most of these don't even belong in the prog category for me (the Neo-Prog I've heard is just "Prog-Related" to my ears). It's actually the least interesting proglist I've ever seen. I know that the Rush album is solid, but I'm not the biggest fan. Placing A Momentary Lapse of Reason in the top ten for a whole decade of Prog, means that you simply haven't heard enough relevant music to boldly claim that "This is the Ten Best". I quessing Nick Shilton's "old school", and haven't ever considered looking beyond the Anglosphere to find out it there's maybe more exciting "Prog" out there than It Bites.
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Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I was rather surprised at first to see those Asia, Yes and Pink Floyd albums listed in the list as I had not thought of those as generally highly regarded (or the ELP actually, never heard it myself, and AWBH...). I would rather things like Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Present, Shub-Niggurath, Eskaton, Dun, Swans for Children of God (if it counts), Thinking Plague, Cardiacs, Jean-Paul Prat, Talk Talk, Kate Bush if it counts... Of course not only does it depend on familiarity and interest (and those choices are one's guy's opinion in an article who clearly has very different tastes to mine, thought at first it might have been a group of contributors to the publication), but also one how one defines Prog. I think many would sooner see that Asia album as AOR and pop-rock than progressive rock, and as more related to prog via personnel than the music itself being of a progressive nature. I'm no expert by any means on the kinds of music in the poll...


Greg,

You know this, but Yes, Pink Floyd and Asia are going to generate far more traffic to their site than Art Zoyd, Cardiacs or Thinking Plague. Prog is not Loudersound's primary genre they cover. They have people who visit their site who are not big time Prog fans, but have heard of Asia's debut album or Yes's 90125 and remember them as being pretty good albums.

I'm going to take a moment to defend Asia and 90125. Outside of the hardcore Proggers who seem to hate any artist who sold more than 25 copies of any album that an artist released or in the case of Yes if Trevor Rabin is involved it's trash and not a real Yes album, Asia and 90125 among the general public like those albums and rate them highly.

The problem Asia faced among the hardcore was when they heard Steve Howe, Carl Palmer and John Wetton were involved, they were expecting ( hoping?) for a return of the glory days. A mashup of Yes, meets ELP and KC. But, that debut didn't have any epics. To my ears, however, sonically it has much in common with Yes's Drama, an album that has retrospectively aged quite well and is thought of highly.

There is no Machine Messiah on Asia, which is an awesome track. But, beyond that, is Tempus Fugit, Run Through the Light or Does it Really Happen? any more proggy than Sole Survivor, Time Again or Wildest Dreams? Does it Really Happen has a bass solo. Well, Wildest Dreams has a drum solo. Heat of the Moment, the big hit single off of Asia, in the verse is in 10/4. The middle eight has Howe playing a Koto. The second half of Cutting it Fine has Downes's keyboard instrumental with Palmer adding some snare drumming. Not exactly pop.

As for 90125, it is in my opinion, a smartly made, sophisticated Pop-Rock album in the mould of Synchronicity from the Police. It was never supposed to be a Yes album. It became one when Anderson became involved. There are Prog flourishes found on the album and there is some great playing. I never saw it as an album where Yes sold out. This is not Invisible Touch. I'm thankful for the album as it allowed Yes to continue to play arenas and large outdoor amphitheaters.

That's my take anyway.


I loved Asia's debut album and remember being at a packed Shepherd's Bush Empire back in the 00's when the original line up of the band reformed to play the whole album. It was a perfect AOR/prog crossover album at the time but what gave it an edge was Carl Palmer and Steve Howe playing together for the first time. There was a special energy there and Howe admitted it was very exciting for him when he first got in the studio with Carl. I don't hear that on 90125 where too much sounded restricted and enclosed to my ears. I like the Police as well. They were getting seriously progggy at the time of Synchonicity and then just stopped ( go figure) but I liked Sting's subsequent solo work such as Bring On The Night, Dream Of The Blue Turtles and even the more mainstream hit album Ten Summoner Tales (although none of it is 'prog'). Never liked 80's Yes at all bar Drama or even the AWBH album which did nothing for me ( I will sling me hook now :) ) . In fact all the major seventies prog bands (the so called ''Big Six'') all made horrid records in the 80's to my ears. Asia kind of worked only for one album and then went rotten pretty quickly. I like Drama a lot but don't really regard it as Yes.
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Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I voted for that Marillion too even though I prefer Clutching At Straws. Is it much better? I can't say for sure but I've listened to it more and it grew on me more. Clutching took quite a while for me to get into when I first heard it back in the early 90s.I think M.C. is more immediately accessible while C.A.S. is more of a slow burner.

I still haven't heard Brother Where You Bound even though I own all of the 74-79 Supertramp albums on cd. Is Brother typically considered to be the best post Hodgson ST album?


Barry Robinson ( Classic Album Review) rates Brother Where You Bound quite highly. I remember another Prog reviewer giving Brother good marks, although I can't remember exactly whom ( maybe Scott from The Prog Corner, but don't quote me on that).


I started having a serious issue with Barry when he put The Bends at the top of his best albums of the 90's list and then the last video I watched of his was the best of 1970 list which did nothing for me. Although he likes a certain amount of prog I don't think it's his favourite genre (he likes Yes a lot though and Pink Floyd). Apart from the longish track on the album I don't find Brother Where You Bound that interesting personally. A lot of the magic walked out the door with Hodgson. Rick Davies was certainly the anchor in the band but it would be a bit like The Beatles carrying on without Macca. IMO.



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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, there's no way I could vote for 90125 over ABWH. I suspect those who voted for 90125 and not ABWH have either not heard ABWH or are on this site by accident and are not real prog fans. :p I also voted for Misplaced Childhood and Moving Pictures.

I love both, but I prefer 90125. I've been at both the tours, also.
Brother of Mine is a great mini-epic, there's also an appearance by Vangelis, but 9025 is for me the best non-prog album of YES.

I actually loved (and actually played with a cover band) Misplaced Childhood.


Just out of curiosity do you consider Big Generator to be a non-prog album and also what other Yes albums do you consider to be non-prog?
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I've been looking for a similar list for 90s prog but can't seem to find one. If anyone finds one let me know and I'll do a poll for that or you can do it yourself.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 26 2025 at 17:04
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