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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38763 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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I have to admit though, it really frustrates me when I read reviews on ProgArchives that criticize albums simply because they aren't fully progressive. Albums like ELO's Time or Secret Messages are incredible synth-pop works, yet they get one or two stars just because they don't fit neatly into the prog mold. That kind of narrow-mindedness misses the point — you should evaluate an album for what it is, not what it isn't. Judging Time as a progressive rock album is like dismissing a Charli XCX album for not sounding like John Coltrane. It's unfair and ultimately unhelpful.
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Eclectic/RIO/RPI/Canterbury
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Faul_McCartney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 25 2022 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123 |
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Not inherently, but I feel like the overlap is significant enough the answer might as well be yes. As others have said, it also depends what you consider to be "nerdy".
I would agree with that except for the website that we're on. The star system is explicitly about how you would rate music as prog. The "Prog-Related" and "Proto-prog" ratings are not held to that condition, which is fair enough. I do think a lot in "Crossover", like ELO, should really be in "Related" and not be subject to the same rating. |
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"De gustibus non est disputandum”
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 13019 |
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-Gnik Nosmirk: Coincidentally ELO's Time has been favorite of mine basically all of my life. Ever since I pulled the LP out of my parents record collection as a child - and found the cover art intriguing. I've actually rated it with five stars at RYM. I find it perfect at what it is. An insanely catchy "pop opera" in space (I do find it somewhat progressive too). And of course it would get the exact same rating here if I had bothered. The bands and their music are not to blame for all of PA's badly thought through decicions made back in the day. Time would have gotten five stars at JazzMusicArchives for that matter. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20636 |
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OK, fair enough that the ratings description in PA are perfectible enough (who actually rates that way anyways? ProgDorks and Symph Weenies ![]() But I imagine that the Metal Music Archives are also as "skewed" as a metal-dom scale. It's a problem that RYM doesn't face since it's a totally open ballgame. And indeed both prog and to a lesser extent metal were indeed like sects back when the sites were created in 2004, though MMA was born somewhat much later than PA (>> 2010, maybe?) As for Jazz MA, I guess it was more adult setting though I haven't got a memory about the ratings go up according to some possible "jazz scale". . Edited by Sean Trane - Yesterday at 04:02 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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