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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 10:20
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Excuse me for getting it wrong, but the site is about Prog Rock, isn't it?

Or do we not care any more, and anything goes?

The 5 star rating is NOT about how much we like the music, MORE it's about how much of a Masterpiece of Progressive Rock it is. The 4 star rating is likewise NOT out of 5, but representative of an Excellent addition to ANY prog music collection.

If I've got that wrong, I need new glasses or I'm on the wrong site.

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (31%)
Excellent addition to any prog music collection (31%)
Good, but non-essential (25%)
Collectors/fans only (6%)
Poor. Only for completionists (6%)



Let me not go into the theory of sets, but simply ask: is 4 stars essential or non-essential? I suppose  something may be either essential or non-essential, but not both. So, 5 stars is essential ... 3 -- non-essential but good. Is 4 stars non-essential but excellent addition ... ? I believe 2 and 1 stars characterise something non-essential for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 10:25

 

Now your taking Grace under fire

picture didn't work, I'll have to surrender on Will's behave now

fire away please



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 11:23
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Who cares about the top 100 list

Agreed!!!!!!

 I am sick of those members constantly looking at that list. So much energy wasted on that list. I wish it would get taken away, just to pacify the forum and avoid massive blockvoting to try to get an album up there.

Have some people nothing better to do? Like getting a life......



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 11:51
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Who cares about the top 100 list

Agreed!!!!!!

 I am sick of those members constantly looking at that list. So much energy wasted on that list. I wish it would get taken away, just to pacify the forum and avoid massive blockvoting to try to get an album up there.

Have some people nothing better to do? Like getting a life......

that's a good point, I always wonder about that, are there really people who give higher ratings, or lower ratings than the album actually deserves according themselves, just to get their average rating more to their liking. Would be wrong to do if you'd ask me. Give an album the rating it deserves in your opinion, and don't let your rating be guided by other things than your personal opinion about the album.

I think the top 100 list is a good thing to have, but don't expect it to be to your liking, for it displays the most popular/best known, and also the best albums, but the more unknown albums are not going to be on such a list, that's what exploring is all about, finding something in the haystack that blows you away

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 12:12

Originally posted by Arteum Arteum wrote:



Let me not go into the theory of sets, but simply ask: is 4 stars essential or non-essential? I suppose  something may be either essential or non-essential, but not both. So, 5 stars is essential ... 3 -- non-essential but good. Is 4 stars non-essential but excellent addition ... ? I believe 2 and 1 stars characterise something non-essential for sure.

I think that 4 star albums can be essential, but only for fans of that sub genre. 5 stars should be albums that EVERY prog fan should have. An album like Shadow Gallery: Tyranny for example would be 4 stars ... but the problem is that I love that album so much that it would break my heart to rate it any less than MAXIMUM. This is too difficult ...  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 12:15
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Who cares about the top 100 list

Agreed!!!!!!

 I am sick of those members constantly looking at that list. So much energy wasted on that list. I wish it would get taken away, just to pacify the forum and avoid massive blockvoting to try to get an album up there.

Have some people nothing better to do? Like getting a life......

I'm sick of the people always complaining about the people constantly looking at that list.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 14:33

I'm sick of people always complaining about people always complaining about... oh forget it!LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 14:44

This is just a website- whats the big deal- nothing to get all pissy about- bad-reviews are a part of life- everyone had their own opinions- even if they are sucky



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 14:51
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

This is just a website- whats the bid deal- nothing to get all pissy about- bad-reviews are a part of life- everyone had their own opinions- even if they are sucky



Actually, for some people this is more than "just a website". I think a lot of us would like to see this place become one of the most accessible and informative progressive rock sites on the net. We're mostly there, but there's always room for improvement. I think we have every right to care about the reviews that get posted here, thank you very much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 14:54
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

This is just a website- whats the big deal- nothing to get all pissy about- bad-reviews are a part of life- everyone had their own opinions- even if they are sucky

What's all this "pissy" and "sucky"?

You a rent boy?Wink

 

 

Or about 9 yrs old............................Stern Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 14:56
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

This is just a website- whats the big deal- nothing to get all pissy about- bad-reviews are a part of life- everyone had their own opinions- even if they are sucky

What's all this "pissy" and "sucky"?

You a rent boy?Wink

 

 

Or about 9 yrs old............................Stern Smile

he's from the United States

(sorry America, wanted to say it, doesn't mean I think your all pissy sucky wanky yankee doodley)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 15:06
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

This is just a website- whats the bid deal- nothing to get all pissy about- bad-reviews are a part of life- everyone had their own opinions- even if they are sucky



Actually, for some people this is more than "just a website". I think a lot of us would like to see this place become one of the most accessible and informative progressive rock sites on the net. We're mostly there, but there's always room for improvement. I think we have every right to care about the reviews that get posted here, thank you very much.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:29

I'm also of the opinion that this one is more just than "just a website", but one of it's best qualities, is that everyone is allowed to say her or his opinion, post her or his review (including fanboys and hateboys), have a favorite band and so on. And because of that, your are going to find all kinds of people here (which is great). If anyone doesn't like that, he can always create a yahoo-group of something like that, and decide himself who is gonna belong to it or not.

That also the reason why moderators and admins should be extremly tolerant about reviews (actually about everything on this site) and try not to erase much of them; their variety and polarity are the escence of this great site.

PD: By the way Tuxon, America is a continent, not a country.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:45

Wow- you guys take this S*it way too seriously- must quote me over, and over, wow-

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:54
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Wow- you guys take this S*it way too seriously- must quote me over, and over, wow-



Moron.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:55

Oh- ouch- that hurts- hey- I got quoted again!!! lol

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:59
Yep, you did. And I wasn't trying to offend/hurt you, I was merely making an observation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 16:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 17:09

One last thing bout reviews- you run into trouble when reviewers mostly review albums that they LOVE- ( i must admit- i have done more positive reviews than negative reviews) Inagine if you reviewed every single album that you had, or heard? it would throw the ratings WAY off- just a thought.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 17:10
I dunno, it seems a lot of reviewers as of late review only albums they hate. 
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