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Poll Question: Do you enjoy listening to Dream Theater?
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66 [60.55%]
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    Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:39
I am really curious as to the results of this poll.  I do not by any means see any value in their music and am actaully quite concerned that DT could become the posterboys of modern prog and totally misrepresent progressive music.   If they become the cliche for progressive music, the future of this genre is in real trouble.  I am not trying to stir up trouble at all, these are just real concerns of mine.  Thanks for honestly voting.  Me and I asume many others shall look forward to the results of this niche community.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:42

DeadDeadDeadDead

Ugghhh, I'd rather play a cherub at Netherland ranch, than listen to anymore DT!Confused




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:44

DT bores me after 5 minutes, and I'm not alone.

We have a Progressive discussion group in Perú named La Lata, and every month one member talks about a band and shows some videos for all the group in a Video Club.

At the end of 2004 one of our best prepared hosts "Cesar Inca" talked about Dream Theater, his speech was impecable and interesting, the videos were good, but the reaction among the public was terrible, most of the people don't have interest in Prog' Metal or Dream Theater.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:45

Ugghhh, I'd rather play a cherub at Netherland ranch, than listen to anymore DT

 

Wow!!!!!!

Now that is some serious dislike

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:45

How can DT "misrepresent progressive music" ??

Just BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:47
Originally posted by Swinton MCR Swinton MCR wrote:

How can DT "misrepresent progressive music" ??

Just BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT?

Why have you included a hyperlink to your email Swinny?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:50
I some some and I don't like some of their stuff. They're a mixed bag.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:51
I don't know - my computer just decided to put it in ? - Very strange ??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:55
I really don't think it is progressive music, that is my concern.  It does have some elements of the genre, but DT is more of a slick metal band with progressive tendencies.  Metal first and Prog second, thus MetalProg not ProgMetal.  I feel that those outside of prog are often scared away by these "ProgMetal" bands like DT.  I just don't want prog and it's public view for that matter be tainted by the likes of DT.  I have been lurking around these forums for more than a month now and I was shocked by the amount of interest I see in DT and bands like them.  I am not trying to start a battle just get a barometer of the interest in DT.  If you enjoy DT so be it, just taking a poll.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:58

Originally posted by Swinton MCR Swinton MCR wrote:

I don't know - my computer just decided to put it in ? - Very strange ??

No- you originally typed "@" instead of " ' " .GeekLOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:02

As one who has previosuly freaked out (just ever so slightly) about polls I probably shouldn't get involved here, but Gdub makes an interesting point about prog-metal's representation of the genre.

Not arguing whether DT are prog or not (so dull - they're here because they're here) but heavy metal's take on (abduction of?) is an interesting subject.

Has heavy metal ruined prog? Was prog in any way ever allied with heavy metal in some sort of musical pigeon hole? Why/How do so many people who are enthusiastic about metal find their way to Yes/KC/Genesis/Floyd etc and why when they do find them are they attracted to music, which to my ears, has so little to do with prog.

Ok there are exceptions such as Rush who have a hard rock core running through their music (but which in my opinion was thrown out on their most interesting records - 1976-1984) before re-emerging in the 90s.

But what the hell is the deal with Metal and Prog?

To me they're mutually exclusive - one is clever and inspired by jazz, folk and classical filtered through some R&B, blues and psychedelia, the other bludgeoning, soulless and inspired by speed, volume and other heavy metal/hard rock.

Am I alone in thinking this?

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:02
BTW I voted no
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:04
Just re-read my first post. Blimey my typing is sh*te isn't it!!! And I do this for a living
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:07

"But what the hell is the deal with Metal and Prog? "

I wish I knew. 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:15
I sometimes enjoy Dream Theater... it depends on my mood... sometimes I hate it, some times I really like certain parts. Their music has good elements, but also many many cheesey elements (take that sax solo on Images And Words, for instance... CHEESEY!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:20
Very talented musicians, i just find that they are dull. I also wrote a song which had the same title as a DT song, which made me label them as mortal enemies. "Learning to Live" was a really good song name. But now i cant use it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:28
I would agree that DT are very good musicians.  I also think that parts of their songs are good but then they do a 360 and turn to metal and destroy the moment.  I believe that DT had the talent to be a good prog band but not the understanding of mood, flow, or composition.  This is not just a problem with DT but  countless numbers of other modern prog bands.  Skill alone does not make the art.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:44

very good musicians. Mike Portnoy is one of the best drummers from the 90s I think. The vocalization is good, the guitars can become boring. And I give a A+ to the keyboarding.

Overall I enjoy DT. I have 3 of their albums working on getting a couple more

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 16:47
Hmm, well i like them, maybe its because I'm a metal head turned progger
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2005 at 17:24
I don't really enjoy their music. They create pleasant moods just to tear
them apart with doodling nonsense, and Portnoy is just awful Good
drummer perhaps, in the same way Yngwie is a good guitarist.

You're being a bit harsh on metal, arcer. It's a broad genre. Many sub-
genres are indeed inspired by "volume and speed", others equally
obsessed with feelings. It's just a different kind of sophistication. But
there is a great lot of very talented "metal" composers who share progs
perfectionism, artistical expressions and sophistication. They just create
their music with the style they love the mostl. To call metal
"soulless" is bad generalizing
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