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condor
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Topic: The Family Posted: October 18 2015 at 09:19 |
Will the family one day be looked on as slavery once was, i.e. the ownership of one human being by another?
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 09:30 |
You've posted some mad threads during the last couple of weeks but this one takes the cake. You can't possibly compare family with slavery. This is not only like comparing apples to oranges but more like comparing apples to screwdrivers.
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emigre80
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 09:39 |
yeah, I really don't get how being married to someone or being their parent = ownership. Are you thinking of societies where children are more communally raised?
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 10:10 |
condor wrote:
Will the family one day be looked on as slavery once was, i.e. the ownership of one human being by another? |
Please offer some context in regards to your question. In some societies, particularly in the Middle-east, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc., the rigid patriarchal structure of the family (whether through rigid stratification of caste, fundamentalism or traditional taboos and medieval mores) amounts to slavery for women.
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condor
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 10:42 |
Under the family, children have to do whatever their parents decide, no matter what. The parent owns the child.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 10:57 |
Because children always do as they are told?
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emigre80
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 11:28 |
timothy leary wrote:
Because children always do as they are told? |
Gosh, I wish someone had mentioned that to my daughter twenty years ago.
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 11:54 |
So basically, if I had a child, he'd be a slave of a slave of a slave of a slave of a slave of a slave of... you get the point. Mankind is all slaves. Slaves to water and oxygen. Slaves to the sun and the skies. Slaves to our brains. Slaves of life. Slaves of death. Slaves of everything. What is freedom? Freedom is nothing. Without being a slave, you wouldn't exist. There is no escape.
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Dean
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 11:55 |
Go tidy your room now.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 12:07 |
Because I said so
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 12:34 |
Dean wrote:
Go tidy your room now. | And then, Mr Lewis. Isn't time that he was out on his own?
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Dean
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 12:42 |
lazland wrote:
Dean wrote:
Go tidy your room now. |
And then, Mr Lewis.
Isn't time that he was out on his own? |
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O666
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 13:23 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
condor wrote:
Will the family one day be looked on as slavery once was, i.e. the ownership of one human being by another? |
Please offer some context in regards to your question. In some societies, particularly in the Middle-east, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc., the rigid patriarchal structure of the family (whether through rigid stratification of caste, fundamentalism or traditional taboos and medieval mores) amounts to slavery for women. |
You completely Wrong. Iran in Middle-East but we are not ARAB. I respect to our ARAB neighbors but we are not ARAB. Women is free in Iran. I know what you think. Hejab (or Hijab) is like uniform in Iran and Police force women (and men) to have Hejab BUT Iranian women are free beside of Hijab . They can vote and they can candidate for President and Parliament. We have many women in Parliament. Iranian women works like men . Iranian women allowed to drive (in some of ARAb countries they can do that). My wife and daughter drive more than me. They save their family name after wedding . and too many another things. Unfotunately your media tell you lies about Iran and made a ugly face of us. They (your medias) show on TV some Iranian people that say "Down with USA" or this kind of stuffs but Most of Iranian peoples LOVE Americans and other west nations. a little people show off this "Down with ..." and all of this kind of peopls organized by goverment to show off for political purpose. You can ask your Athletes or any one that triped to IRAN.
Few months earlier U.S Volyball national team came to Iran and stay 3-4 days. You can ask them about Iran. You say "Middle East" easily but You must to know there are countries that you mistake about that. You must got correct information before talking about Nations.
Edited by O666 - October 18 2015 at 13:27
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 13:42 |
Also: Like most other animals human beings live in families - grow up in them and learn the necessary skills to cope in the big wide world (a lot of exceptions like orphans and the likes, but for the most part the aforementioned statement still holds true). Families are part of the natural world in that sense....:slavery really isn't. Slavery is a man-made structure. It doesn't fulfil any other needs than those of the oppressor(s).
The fact that some think of family as slavery (as many teens probably do) doesn't really negate a future revamping of the history books methinks.
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JD
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 14:18 |
condor wrote:
Under the family, children have to do whatever their parents decide, no matter what. The parent owns the child. |
You got it all wrong man. It's the parent who end up doing what they're told. "Dad, drive me to the mall, Mom buy me that cool dress" Know who the slaves really are ! And I don't agree in any sense that Family = Slavery or that the two have any connection at all. Not to be too personal on this but "Dumb topic"
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 14:46 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
You've posted some mad threads during the last couple of weeks but this one takes the cake. You can't possibly compare family with slavery. This is not only like comparing apples to oranges but more like comparing apples to screwdrivers.
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^this I think condor might be in need of some family advice.
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Horizons
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 14:59 |
condor needs to have the right of thread making removed for a week
this of it like... grounding
Edited by Horizons - October 18 2015 at 14:59
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 15:03 |
Horizons wrote:
condor needs to have the right of thread making removed for a week eternity
this of it like... grounding |
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 15:04 |
The song I have looping in my head lately when reading these threads is Boingo's "Capitalism".
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TeleStrat
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Posted: October 18 2015 at 15:05 |
condor wrote:
Under the family, children have to do whatever their parents decide, no matter what. The parent owns the child. |
The parent doesn't own the child, the parent is responsible for the child.
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