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SteveG 
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The first offering from ELP that spawned the hit "Lucky Man" and put the trio on the map. 48 years on how do you view ELP's eponymous debut?
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 11:24 |
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A decent lift off. Better things to come, but also parts of Take A Pebble showed how easily the venture could falter. I warm to Tank more than Take A Pebble.
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 12:25 |
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It was an almost perfect debut: New in flavor, very well produced (in many ways their best sounding album), both commercial and arty, and showed how the new pomp-rock could still have an edge and make the hair on your arms stand up. Their most balanced album, and probably their best overall (and I'm a Tarkus nut). |
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 12:35 |
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Not as good as Mediterranean Tales.
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 12:43 |
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For me clearly their best album, because it combines skill and adventure with good catchy melodies. It is the only ELP album that really gets me emotionally; I like some of their later stuff but no further album in full, and there's always too much showmanship for me.
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 13:59 |
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Their best album.......still my favorite by them.....and anyone who thinks different has salad for brains.
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 15:13 |
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Emerson, Lake & Palmer is one of the most splendid debuts a fan of the genre could stumble across. I love it to pieces.
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 18:51 |
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Posted: September 18 2018 at 21:06 |
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present and accounted for Doc... haha. heck yeah the debut is my favorite.. and side 1 is perhaps the single best side of prog anyone ever did.. but not their best album.. funny.. and perhaps for that reason. Their best IMO also happens to be my least favorite from them.
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 00:26 |
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so where does that put Illusion On A Double Dimple?!
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richardh
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 00:33 |
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Keith Emerson is a monster on this album particularly on Three Fates and I love Barbarian and Lucky Man. Tank is quite quirky but I prefer the Works version without the drum solo. Take A Pebble is unique and the first thing that Emerson and Lake wrote together before the power trio format was settled on and Palmer was recruited. The one fly in the ointment is Knife Edge which doesn't gel for me. It's typical ELP though and the Hammond organ as always is glorious. Overall its a solid 4 star debut but as always on any ELP album there is a track or two that doesn't quite do it.
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 07:22 |
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Hi,
Bought the album because of the hit song, but surprise, surprise, I liked everything else in that album a heck of a lot more than the hit song. But it was the next album that got me very much into this band, although that was also the time I was starting to find all the other European groups around, which lessened my interest in ELP, as many other bands in the continent were doing far more adventurous work at the time. Still, it is Keith Emerson and the works he did with his band, that show what a fantastic composer and music designer he was ... listening to Rachel Flowers do piano versions and even simple versions of his work, just about shows what a great composer Keith was ... if only we gave him that credit instead of thinking this whole thing is strictly about ELP ... can you imagine Keith trying to explain to his 2 friends how to do Tarkus? And how their eventual output made it even stronger! Maybe we all need a lesson in how difficult creating something it can be! Specially when you have to share it with a couple of other members in the group.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 13:23 |
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I love it. The Barbarian is possibly the greatest opening song on any prog bands premier album. It grabs you by the scruff of the neck and gets in your face. Take a Pebble has never been one of my favorite ELP pieces, but the studio version with the clap-along party section is a great contrast. Knife Edge is one of my fave ELP songs of all time and Keith sticking Bach's French Suite in D theme in the middle is very cool. I'm up for any reason to hear a CP drum solo so I'm good with Tank. The Three Fates is both powerful and dissonant which is a perfect contrast to Lucky Man. Keith's Moog solo at the end (even though he hated it) is one of the most iconic synth solos ever and was a real trail blazer. It was the 1st time I ever heard a synth (probably true of many people) and likely did as much as Switched on Bach to make the Moog name synonymous with the synthesizer.
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 13:43 |
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Are you serious, Richard? I love that song!
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 15:04 |
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A great debut album - full of invention and variation with super group and solo tracks. Still have a slight preference for Tarkus and Trilogy (sorry, the good doctor, must be the lettuce and tomatoes in my frontal lobe
), but not by a large amount. The Barbarian was still a great way to open their account, and the jazzy piano improvisations of Keith were amongst his best ever. Maybe not absolutely sure of the country acoustic guitar bit in Take A Pebble, and I also slightly prefer the Works Vol. 1 version of Tank - but it's all very minor really.Edited by Squonk19 - September 19 2018 at 15:05 |
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 15:41 |
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I love it and not just because it came out the year I was born. :P I prefer it over a certain red faced album believe it or not.
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 15:44 |
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Well stated and I agree 100 percent. BSS would be their best if it wasn't so repetitious in parts. The other two early studio albums have one great side but then too many filler or not so great songs.
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Posted: September 19 2018 at 17:53 |
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if it wasn't ELP I wouldn't bother trying to get a f**king post through captcha a 2nd time.. f**k you M@X and catchas and emoticons as well.. especially after a good evening at the local bar. yeah Richard. I might have to revoke your '2nd in charge' (behind the Big MIck of course) ELP fanclub for that stinker of a post. Knife's Edge rules. Simple as that. I'd expect that sentiment from Neo Fans or the f**king bobbleheads who have no idea that prog can be heavy and intense. What a dynamic from the lovely and romanitic Take a Pebble where his vocals make me want to hang Raff from a ceiing fan and do the sh*t drunken frat boys (and apparantly Supreme Court judges) do their women but with Knife's Edge you get an intensity and anger that poseur bands can only dream of reaching. While Lake' voice can make me think of playing for the other side in its beauty and expressiveness.. when he goes in bad Lake.. angry Lake as he did here.. man.. I feel to the urge to revist my mid 20's and lay waste to JD bottle and nail anything with red hair. Lake makes that track what it is .... the greatest with ZERO compition prog vocalist and rivaled by very few (namely Justin Hayward) in all of rock. Do listen to it again Richard... it is one bitchin song. |
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