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    Posted: February 04 2006 at 22:06

I refuse to call it "Modern Prog", it is all miserable.  It is good compared to the crap the media is feeding, but "modern prog" it just no where NEAR as good as classic prog.

 
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Don't know what you mean by 'modern prog',maybe some examples will help. But if you refer to bands like Flowerking and Spock Beard they are better than say for instance Genesis!
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Points: 559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 22:14
If you're refering to MTV trash like Coheed and Cambria and System of a Down then I agree. By MTV trash I mean "not prog" of course.

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Everything changes. Refusing to change will take you exactly were you are now...
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No, I am referring to bands like Mars Volta and bands on this website.  I think the crap is what the media is feeing, like coheed an camria and whatever else....but i also find the modern prog people hail on this forum to be crap as well.

Not nearly as bad as the MTV stuff, but it is just no where NEAR as good as the stuff we get from the late 60's and early 70's...i dont think it is terrible for society and for people who like it, but it is terrible when compared to TRUE prog, which lies in the years 30,40 years prior to now!
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99% of the people here need to open their minds to new innovative music. spocks beard and flower kings are not prog at all.


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listen to Hella
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I disagree with you to the fullest extent. There are plenty of fantastic bands that are "modern," and some of them are at the same level of quality, or, dare I say, are even better than a lot of classic prog bands.

And, again, Coheed and Cambria (System of a Down too, for that matter) is not MTV trash.
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Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

No, I am referring to bands like Mars Volta and bands on this website.  I think the crap is what the media is feeing, like coheed an camria and whatever else....but i also find the modern prog people hail on this forum to be crap as well.

Not nearly as bad as the MTV stuff, but it is just no where NEAR as good as the stuff we get from the late 60's and early 70's...i dont think it is terrible for society and for people who like it, but it is terrible when compared to TRUE prog, which lies in the years 30,40 years prior to now!

This is why the genre died, folks.
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Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 22:39

okay:

gem:

flower kings

transatlantic

glass hammer

etc...

 

crap:

guess what?

[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

okay:

gem:

flower kings

transatlantic

glass hammer

etc...

 

crap:

guess what?



incorrect. look at the record companies i linked to in my post. tons of amazing new innovative bands.

listen to Hella
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Mhhh... ¡but it is called Progressive Rock! ¡It is supossed to progress, grow, expand, change, diversificate, mutate, etc.!

The genre is not dead. I'm sure someone back on those beloved years of yours said the very same thing about early prog. "Mhhh... this thing the young call music is nothing but pure hippie crap!!!...it is not music"
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or... ¿you know what? ¡you're right! ¡let's stop right now and keep repeating the same music structure, with the very same old synthesizers forever! ¡let's never change anything again! in fact, let's go right now to every country and burn those so called modern creators and put an end to their crap!
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Points: 4318 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 22:47
and you (The lost chord) are so young!!! This world is definitively going backwards.... I mean, one thing is the lack of adaptative cappabilities of the old school music lovers, but a young guy...
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 22:55
Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

No, I am referring to bands like Mars Volta and bands on this website.  I think the crap is what the media is feeing, like coheed an camria and whatever else....but i also find the modern prog people hail on this forum to be crap as well.

Not nearly as bad as the MTV stuff, but it is just no where NEAR as good as the stuff we get from the late 60's and early 70's...i dont think it is terrible for society and for people who like it, but it is terrible when compared to TRUE prog, which lies in the years 30,40 years prior to now!

This is why the genre died, folks.



^ i second what alan-pfeifer said

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Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

No, I am referring to bands like Mars Volta and bands on this website.  I think the crap is what the media is feeing, like coheed an camria and whatever else....but i also find the modern prog people hail on this forum to be crap as well.

Not nearly as bad as the MTV stuff, but it is just no where NEAR as good as the stuff we get from the late 60's and early 70's...i dont think it is terrible for society and for people who like it, but it is terrible when compared to TRUE prog, which lies in the years 30,40 years prior to now!

This is why the genre died, folks.



^ i second what alan-pfeifer said

¡Hey! ¡Nice playlist! Exactly the opposite of what this thread stands for...

and... ¡¡¡ The genre is not dead !!!
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Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

No, I am referring to bands like Mars Volta and bands on this website.  I think the crap is what the media is feeing, like coheed an camria and whatever else....but i also find the modern prog people hail on this forum to be crap as well.

Not nearly as bad as the MTV stuff, but it is just no where NEAR as good as the stuff we get from the late 60's and early 70's...i dont think it is terrible for society and for people who like it, but it is terrible when compared to TRUE prog, which lies in the years 30,40 years prior to now!

This is why the genre died, folks.



^ i second what alan-pfeifer said

I will third, but not in the literal sense, as it is very much alive.
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 23:22
thanks cuncuna

I was trying to quote it like Moatilliata," not in the literal sense" . But if we think like that then there will be no hope for prog in the future.

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Points: 4318 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 23:25

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

thanks cuncuna

I was trying to quote it like Moatilliata," not in the literal sense" . But if we think like that then there will be no hope for prog in the future.

I would not worry about it. Sigur Rós, Animal Collective, Mogwai, GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! (¿are they incredible or what?), Radiohead, AIR (not entirely prog, but very well balanced and influenced). Evolution always wins...
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Points: 823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 23:26
Yeah, I cam off too hasty I suppose.
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Points: 81 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 23:33
Originally posted by Rashikal Rashikal wrote:

99% of the people here need to open their minds to new innovative music. spocks beard and flower kings are not prog at all.


http://www.ipecac.com/main.php

www.loadrecords.com


I completely agree. Not every band on this site is prog.
For instance, "Wizards", a ROCK BAND only.
Progressive music, a kind of life.
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