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 Topic: Is rock dead? What is today's popular rock?Posted: June 28 2007 at 12:54 |
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Please answer me, please.
I'm talking POPULAR MAINSTREAM HARD ROCK here....So please, no prog.
 In the 70's we had AOR and, for like five minutes, PROG was actually almost mainstream.
In the 80's we had more synth-rock/pop and hair metal.
In the 90's we had metal for like 2 minutes, grunge, and near the end of the decade, nu-metal and all of that.
But today... I check the Whore of the World (MTV) to see if there's any hard rock in there... ZERO. In past decades, grunge or hair bands were popular enough to be on that channel and on radio. Today I don't see ANY rock. I radios, all we get is those awful "Nickelback" things that lack ant identity, or "Daughtry", who is less bad than expected but who anyway plays that kind of "gut-less" rock... Is there any HARD ROCK that's popular for this decade? Or has hard-rock finally died in terms of mainstream, success? I don't know.
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enigma
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:32 |
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It has stagnated in my opinion.
The mainstream seems to be pop dressed up as 'punk' or 'emo' in the form of Green Day (a poor Bad Religion clone?) and a load of other bands seemingly marketed at young teenagers (Fall out Boy etc). Bands like Foo Fighters have become straight rock, and others like Queens of the Stone Are hardly setting the world alight. Bullet for my Valentine & Lost Prophets seem to be picking up steam. There is interesting stuff in the form of Tool, Incubus and Procupine Tree (ok some of those have elements of prog) but nothing that you see on TV. Muse are probably the best british rock band around at the moment, in fact there are no other big hitters coming out of Britain. Iron Maiden will still be here when the sun goes out, but their time in the spotlight has long gone. White Stripes play stripped down blues when they feel like it, and Wolfmother are a new take on Sabbath. - In fact it will be interesting to see what their next album sounds like, because I doubt they can get away with another album of that style. There are a number of indie bands with a dense sound (Arctic Monkeys) but they are on a different path to the music you probably (and rightly so) crave. Edited by enigma - June 28 2007 at 15:36 |
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gong
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:46 |
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" ROCK IS DEAD - LONG LIVE ROCK"
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laplace
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:49 |
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Sadly, it's RHCP. The charts just aren't favouring any new rock acts of note.
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progismylife
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:49 |
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I saw The Who yesterday....  I don't think rock is dead...you just have to look a bit deeper than American mainstream music to find it... |
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enigma
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:55 |
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I forgot about RHCP.... says a lot really. Yep, there is a fairly healthy rock scene but from a mainstream point of view, not a great deal. Here's some Wolfmother . Not particularly original, but fun. Edited by enigma - June 28 2007 at 15:56 |
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mystic fred
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:56 |
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i saw them on Tuesday...
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Chicapah
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 15:59 |
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It would seem that hard rock has morphed into (dare I say it?) the Country arena. While surfing TV channels I sometimes come across a C&W video that is closer to the rock and roll spirit than say, Green Day.
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gong
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 16:39 |
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 i have been at Glastonbury....hey, 'The & Theatre' - i'v been moved to be weep coz of that amazing the lament at the end of the gig.(btw, Pino was great on the show!)
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gong
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 16:44 |
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Of course i'ill try to do it!
but, i'll not digging so deep, coz i'm lazy f**k.... Edited by gong - June 28 2007 at 16:48 |
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R o V e R
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 17:08 |
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Where is "Kula Shaker"?
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dwill123
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 17:38 |
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ROCK IS DEAD. The music mogals tried to do the same thing with rock as they did with rap, an endless parade of cookie cutter no-talent acts after cookie cutter no-talent acts and it has failed miserably. Look at the sh*t being dragged out as the next amazing talent. They always sound like the last piece of sh*t superstar no-talent. You'll never see the 70s again, period.
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Ryth
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 17:54 |
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The rock spirit isn't in the mainstream anymore, but the candle still burns.
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Komodo dragon
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 18:13 |
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What can you tell about today's popular rock when the lead magazine in that subject put on their cover pages people like Dr. Dre or Avril Lavigne or Whitney Houston ?
 Is rock dead?One big NO NO i think that he just evolve in other kinds of music What is today's popular rock? Linkin Park |
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salmacis
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 05:41 |
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Have wondered about the state of rock myself, yeah. I am confident it will be reborn but at the minute, it's at a bit of a low-ebb.
There seems to be little originality (this year's Glastonbury BBC coverage hammered that home; a massive bias towards incredibly dull and samey 'indie' bands, the vast majority of which lacked any sense of stage presence, imho) and even worse, relatively few great bands have broken through to the mainstream over the past year or two.
A lot of the bands listed on this thread have been around for a fair few years now...the only rock band that have made any great impact are The Arctic Monkeys.
I cannot bear them, personally (those vocals get on my nerves and hearing their set at Glastonbury hammered home how samey their songs were), but they have been perhaps the only major success story of the past year or two that springs to mind.
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Dean
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 05:54 |
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The Glasto coverage was pretty dire - but that has been true for many years now (since the arrival of the Dance tent if you ask me)
I would differentiate between Rock and Metal.
Metal is doing okay as far as I am concerned. Rock on the otherhand does appear to have become stagnant and bland, even RHCP seem to be recycling these days.
As far as the USA goes - The Sword is the only US rock band I've heard and liked recently.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 09:23 |
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Rock is alive and kicking! The new Velvet Revolver, "Libertad" is one of the best rock albums I´ve heard in a long time. Actually, last night, I listened to it three times in a row! Their debut album was average, but the new one is great, highly recommended!! Edited by WaywardSon - June 29 2007 at 09:23 |
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salmacis
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 14:24 |
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I've heard a lot of positives about 'Libertad'. I'm not a G & R fan by any stretch (played 'Appetite For Destruction' the other day and I'll be honest, I don't even like that one THAT much- Axl Rose's vocals do nothing for me at all) and the VR debut was a bit uninspired (I liked 'Fall To Pieces' though), however they were one of the few bands I enjoyed at Live8- a real tonic amidst the soporific likes of Keane, Robbie Williams and Coldplay. Classic Rock raved over it and gave 'Libertad' 9/10. I might give it a go...
But there's the thing, VR's band members have been around a long, long time now. I've heard some newer bands that are pretty decent, in fairness- The Answer's self titled album is a real heavy/blues rock barnstormer, and Pure Reason Revolution have promise- but they are all too often passed over by the mainstream media so a lot of people don't get to hear them.
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progismylife
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 19:27 |
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That band is so cool... |
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spo1977
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 02:51 |
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Now with the internet and being able to listen to mp3s of bands I don't really care about the radio or MTV. I do love thos Pussycat Dolls though.
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