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    Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:01

I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.

 
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
 
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:17
This one was recommended by T Rox in the another thread:
 
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The lead vocalist is Bon Scott, but this doesn't sound at all like AC/DC; it's firmly in the post-psych/blues-rock vein.  They even do a Moody Blues cover (Question)...I'm looking for a copy right nowClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:10
I'm not an expert on blues but I  can recomand a killer blues prog album with the
danish band BEEFEATERS-"Meet  You There" (1969) released on Repertoire Records
in 1994
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"This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:12
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.

 
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
 
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
 
CheersSmile


I'm far from sure the 4 way hybrid you requests exists. However, I'll have a go hitting in the general area of two or three of those targets:

Keef Hartley Band - especially Halfbreed
Colosseum - especially Those Who Are About To Die
Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ;  another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free!
Spooky Tooth - no specific album although Best Of.. might be a starting place - a magnificent cover of I Am The Walrus might be what you;re looking for.

Then I guess drifting away from the targets:
Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond
Quatermass Hammond!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:47
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.

 
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
 
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
 
CheersSmile



I'm far from sure the 4 way hybrid you requests exists. I know I know...wishful thinking I guess (imagine Hammil singing lead for The Allman Bro'sLOL)However, I'll have a go hitting in the general area of two or three of those targets:

Keef Hartley Band - especially Halfbreed
Colosseum - especially Those Who Are About To Die I've heard Valentyne Suite...great album, they've been on my "A List" for a while, I'll look for this one soon
Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ;  another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free! never heard of 'em!!  I'm on it
Spooky Tooth - no specific album although Best Of.. might be a starting place - a magnificent cover of I Am The Walrus might be what you;re looking for.  Good band

Then I guess drifting away from the targets:
Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond
Quatermass Hammond! yyyyyyeaaaah!  heard of 'em but havn't come across the album yet (seems to me it's in the Deep Purple/Atomic Rooster vein)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:49
Originally posted by GentleGiant GentleGiant wrote:

I'm not an expert on blues but I  can recomand a killer blues prog album with the
danish band BEEFEATERS-"Meet  You There" (1969) released on Repertoire Records
in 1994
 
Danish blues rock?  I must hear it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:56
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ;  another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free! never heard of 'em!!  I'm on it
Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond
Quatermass Hammond! yyyyyyeaaaah!  heard of 'em but havn't come across the album yet (seems to me it's in the Deep Purple/Atomic Rooster vein)



Stray Dog were the first American signing to ELP's Manticore label; Greg Lake produced their first self titled album. Stray Dog released on CD with bonus live recordings (e.g. some done during rehearsals for  the Reading Festival 1973) issued by the American label The Wild Places (WILD008) - although a remastered version has been issued by a Japanese label more recently.  That rehearsal version of Crazy, has been a favourite for a long time from when it was first issued back in 1992 by Renaissance Records (San Diego) as part of the Buried Treasures compilation CD.

Quatermass issued on CD by Repertoire Records - REP 5087
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:04
I think Biglietto Per L'Inferno's debut album would fit the hard rock side of prog. And it has Hammond in it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:09
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.

 
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
 
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
 
CheersSmile
 
Try Jimmy Bell's Still In Town by The Numbers Band - re-released by David Thomas of Pere Ubu, who says this of it:
 
For 30 years, in a small town 40 miles south of Cleveland, Ohio, The Numbers Band have kept the blues alive. Where the guardians of the form starved it of innovation, 15-60-75 nurtured abstract evolution. Where the priests of Budweiser Blues droned old catechisms by rote, 15-60-75 aspired to vision. They play blues reimbued with meaning, purged and purified by flame, shorn of every superfluous moment, sound or word. Because their songs are compiled across a series of markers -- words, sounds, phrases and pauses -- they don't count measures and can't outline the structure of their own songs to an outsider. For the blues, a form routinely approached as a compendium of formulas, this is startling, and it means that any change of personnel necessitates months of not just relearning but rewriting every song. It is a methodology from another planet -- Don Van Vliet and Sun Ra come to mind. It is form dedicated to vision. David Thomas, Pere Ubu.
 
There are some samples on this site http://www.numbersband.com/
 
and the album is available as a download from emusic. 2 guitars, bass, drums, 3 saxes with some doubling on organ, congas and harmonica. Should be right up your street.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:12
No vocals but a very progressive blend of jazz, jazzrock and blues made Swedish band Karlsson and Hansson with awesome work on the Hammond organ by Bo Hansson (later known prog musician) Thumbs%20Up
Other recommendations: Quatermass and Julian's Treatment (great female vocals by Cathy Pruden)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:13
Buy Stone The Crows' "Ode To John Law" (1970). My second favourite album of all time, it's a brilliant fusion of blues-rock, soul, psych and prog, with fantastic Janis Joplin-style vocals from Maggie Bell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:17
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.

 
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
 
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
 
CheersSmile


Mandy recommended a RPI album that fits perfectly what you are looking for... for that reason I wasn't too keen on it at first ... .but it has grown on me. The Crystals...

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2885

there is another one though that I personally love and ..and saw Guillermo really digging the other day... Osage Tribe - Arrowhead.  Some jazzy bits... but really '4 on the floor' hard prog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:21
You might also want to try El Grupo, a great blues-rock-fusion band with Steve Lukather. I don't remember any organs on the album, but you can check it out here: http://www.stevelukather.net/Album.aspx?id=339
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:12
Wow, a thank you to everyone for your responses, I've got quite a lot of research to do...
 
Dick:  Stray Dog seems to be somewhat of a forgotten tragedy; apparently they actually toured with ELP but couldn't find a proper fanbase (I guess those proggers didn't like the heavy southern rockGeek)
 
Progismylife:  I've heard good things about Biglietto, they made their way onto my "A List" of future purchases a while back....with pretty much every other RPI band on hereWacko.  It sure is tough keeping up with such limited finances...
 
Syzygy:  Such an enthusiastic review can't help but pique my interest; not one, not two, but 3 (!) saxes, Good God!  I can't seem to find much information about The Numbers Band but Wayside music has the album you speak of-that's a good sign.
 
erik:  I really need to get this Quatermass album, Deep Purple and Uriah Heep fans just rave about these guys.  You know I'm going to look for the Hansson and Karlsson becuase you said those magic words (hammond organ)
 
politician:  I've heard Stone the Crows at some point, can't say I remember a lot about them but I know soul + psych + prog = brilliance
 
micky:  I noticed some talk about Osage Tribe so I've had them on my list too (I take it they're on the archives so it shouldn't be too hard to find info).  Btw, I hate to sound like a complete n00b, but who is that band in your sig?  I imagine they are Italian...boy oh boy there's two keyboardists and one's playing a mellotron, I must hear this band!
 
andu:  I'm listening to the clips right now; blues with a modern touch and excellent playing.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:30
Ever heard of Corte Dei Miracoli, Jimmy  Row? See my review on this site, you will be excited after reading it and even more hungry to get it Wink And Alphataurus their eponymous album and Gli Alluminogeni their first, lots of blues and Hammond organ (my #2 favorite vintage keyboard Clap), again see my reviews on this site!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:38
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

micky:  I noticed some talk about Osage Tribe so I've had them on my list too (I take it they're on the archives so it shouldn't be too hard to find info).  Btw, I hate to sound like a complete n00b, but who is that band in your sig?  I imagine they are Italian...boy oh boy there's two keyboardists and one's playing a mellotron, I must hear this band!
 

 


I love it ... they are  here at PA's....  I gave the album 5 stars, Bob Callero might have been the best bassist out of Italy in the 70's.  Here you get to hear him tear it up hahhah

I brought back the ol' signature....  it's Biglietto per L'inferno.  Great group... not exactly 'blues' orientated...  but great stuff regardless.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:43
^^okay I thought it may be something I've heard of; I've never listened to them though...they're one of those "dark" Italian bands like Jumbo and Il Balletto di Bronzo. As you can tell, I read lotsa reviewsLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:50
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

^^okay I thought it may be something I've heard of; I've never listened to them though...they're one of those "dark" Italian bands like Jumbo and Il Balletto di Bronzo. As you can tell, I read lotsa reviewsLOL


hahahha... just don't read mine.. they suck LOL 

They are not exactly what you asked for in the thread... but I think you'd like their first.  I haven't made up my mind on the second yet... still sitting on the fence, that's why I haven't reviewed it yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2007 at 21:03
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

^^okay I thought it may be something I've heard of; I've never listened to them though...they're one of those "dark" Italian bands like Jumbo and Il Balletto di Bronzo. As you can tell, I read lotsa reviewsLOL


hahahha... just don't read mine.. they suck LOL 

They are not exactly what you asked for in the thread... but I think you'd like their first.  I haven't made up my mind on the second yet... still sitting on the fence, that's why I haven't reviewed it yet.
sure they're not relevant to this thread, but even more than a heavy rock and blues fan I am a symph-head; really just getting into the Italian scene with the big boys (PFM and Le Orme in particular).  But I do think there are quite a few RPI bands that show blues-based tendencies every once in a while; very raw and passionate too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 02:12
I just remembered a few bands I've come across on Pandora at some point...
This one looks (and sounds of course) interesting: Leviathin, an american prog/post-pyche band in the early 70's.  After searching a bit, I found scads of these type of bands with a hybrid of blues and proto-prog such as Bram Stoker, Arc, Proto Kaw, etc. It seems that many of the US prog bands in the 70's had this style (mixing sounds popular in the states like boogie rock with influence from British bands)...but sadly these bands all went unnoticed as prog didn't have as much commercial value in America.  One of the few I can think of that had some success was Kansas with their early albums, merging American rock with European prog.
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