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Points: 2 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2011 at 15:22
To be honest, I'm not at all bothered if a band don't sound original. I only care about one thing...Do i like what I'm listeneing to.
At times Kaipa remind me very much of Yes, but I still love them.
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Points: 617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2011 at 16:05
Having given the subject more thought, I think I can sum up my position like this.

Taking Genesis as an example, a good clone should make me think "Wow, this is really cool! It's like I'm listening to Trespass right now!"

A mediocre clone will make me think "Hm, I guess this is OK. But I'd rather be listening to Trespass right now."

And a bad clone will make me think "Gah, turn it off and put on Trespass this instant!"
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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 22:53
an album has to have something to say musically, and if its a mere carbon copy of a great it is going to be very stale, inevitably. Foxtrot, released as a carbon copy with nothing new to say.... masks may stay the same but the faces change, and a dull childs face would be obvious behind the works. The new album has to restate what the old album was trying to say with renewed force and perspective for it to be another five star work.

An example is the Beatles quite literally translating earlier, blacker artists (like Chuck Berry). They are still five stars, though they were emulating and carbon copying. There is a similar though distinct process with the sudden sprouting of a tendency based on certain features, psychedelia, prog. It can't just be aping Sgt. Peppers or King Crimson, and it wasn't.
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Points: 4096 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2011 at 08:27
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

an album has to have something to say musically, and if its a mere carbon copy of a great it is going to be very stale, inevitably. Foxtrot, released as a carbon copy with nothing new to say.... masks may stay the same but the faces change, and a dull childs face would be obvious behind the works. The new album has to restate what the old album was trying to say with renewed force and perspective for it to be another five star work.

An example is the Beatles quite literally translating earlier, blacker artists (like Chuck Berry). They are still five stars, though they were emulating and carbon copying. There is a similar though distinct process with the sudden sprouting of a tendency based on certain features, psychedelia, prog. It can't just be aping Sgt. Peppers or King Crimson, and it wasn't.

agree with lot's of thisClap
not sure what the Foxtrot part means---
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