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Posted: November 14 2014 at 08:47
I have to say that I am with you on the "all sounds the same" wagon. Kind of if you've heard one sax solo you've heard them all...accept for the VDGG strangling cat sax solos which are just grating.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:00
In other news, we are still barreling along towards a merger with the other Firm. My boss is acting as though this is going to happen, but he still hasn't signed the agreement, so it is kind of weird. The time window is really shrinking for things that need to be done to inform our clients about the merger and to get their permissions to share their data with this new firm and yet we can't really do anything until my boss says it is official. It really didn't take too long for my cautious optimism to turn to severe doom and dread. The reality being that I will be still doing the same job that I don't enjoy doing at a new address with probable more responsibilities and more masters to tell me what to do and not do.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:04
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:07
Uncertainty is stressful, especially when it deals with your job. I've
definitely know that feel over the past few months. With my wife of
course, we played the "I may or may not get laid off" game for a couple
of months - to the point where it was actually a relief when she did get
laid off (thanks to a generous severance package). My company had the
arbitration thing hovering over us for months, but now that we finally
"reached a deal" thus avoiding the arbitration, we're still hemming and
hawing over contract language even today, so nothing is really official
yet. But we have to work anyway as if it is going through, even though
we can't get the required notices out to our doctors yet.
So
yeah. It's nerve wracking, I'm sure. I just hope the changes you see
in your company are for the better rather than worse, even if they do
cut down your shred time for a while.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:08
rushfan4 wrote:
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
We (i.e. PA) pretty much invented the term Crossover Prog, didn't we?
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:11
HolyMoly wrote:
I would like to hear what others who do "get it" have to say about what excites them about this kind of music - and please don't just post videos saying "listen to this" because that probably won't help. I mean, what is your visceral reaction to this stuff, what does it DO to you?
It's kind of hard to articulate one's visceral reaction. I just dig it. I really enjoy listening to it, but I understand that it can all run together or sound the same sometimes. But that was the brilliance of Miles - he kept pushing forward trying new sounds and styles and essentially abandoned old forms. Just look at his progression from the first quartet and Kind of Blue to the sh*t he was doing in the mid 70s - mind boggling.
I'm only starting to really get into and collect a lot of jazz works, but in the short term I'm only going to stick with the bigger names - Miles, Trane, Mingus, Monk, Ornette Coleman - I may not really feel the need to delve deep into more obscure artists the way we do with prog rock.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:12
HolyMoly wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
We (i.e. PA) pretty much invented the term Crossover Prog, didn't we?
Yes. The Art Rock team broke that group up into Heavy Prog, Crossover Prog, and Eclectic Prog and the folks at that time pretty much invented those terms (to the best of my knowledge).
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:12
rushfan4 wrote:
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:14
Padraic wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
I'll have to take a listen to this.
They have three albums that are all part of a concept. I haven't taken the time to really figure out what the concept is all about or looked up the lyrics to keep up with the story, but I do really enjoy their sound.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 09:32
rushfan4 wrote:
From Last.FM description of Delusion Squared: "Their music can be classified as Crossover Prog (or Art Rock) according
to the ProgArchives gurus and has been found to be close to a female
fronted Porcupine Tree."
Based on this song I am listening to I would give an album a try.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 10:05
Padraic wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
I would like to hear what others who do "get it" have to say about what excites them about this kind of music - and please don't just post videos saying "listen to this" because that probably won't help. I mean, what is your visceral reaction to this stuff, what does it DO to you?
It's kind of hard to articulate one's visceral reaction. I just dig it. I really enjoy listening to it, but I understand that it can all run together or sound the same sometimes. But that was the brilliance of Miles - he kept pushing forward trying new sounds and styles and essentially abandoned old forms. Just look at his progression from the first quartet and Kind of Blue to the sh*t he was doing in the mid 70s - mind boggling.
I'm only starting to really get into and collect a lot of jazz works, but in the short term I'm only going to stick with the bigger names - Miles, Trane, Mingus, Monk, Ornette Coleman - I may not really feel the need to delve deep into more obscure artists the way we do with prog rock.
That's probably why I relate to Miles' early 70s stuff more than I do most jazz.
A lot of the ECM label stuff really appeals to me too - a lot of it is very electric and atmospheric sounding, it doesn't "sound like" jazz a lot of the time.
I can understand the difficulty in explaining why you "just dig it". I thought I'd pose the question anyway, even though I knew it would be a tough order.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 10:37
I had a similar disinterest in jazz, but it just clicked one time for whatever reason. I think I just really liked McCoy Tyner's piano on The Real McCoy. It probably helped that I was into a lot of classical music, and McCoy's playing felt like a lot of the impressionist piano pieces I liked.
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Posted: November 14 2014 at 11:00
I'm finding that I do like quite a bit of jazz rock that is listed here on PA, but I think that the more the rock quotient the more I like it and the more the jazz quotient the less, or something like that.
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