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MFP
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:24 |
Really enjoy 90125, I've never heard BG.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 20:51 |
MFP wrote:
Really enjoy 90125, I've never heard BG. |
If you are like me I would say only seek out BG if you are really curious. I dug 90125 when it came out but the follow up sounded like they were ordered to make the same album again and weren't very enthusiastic about it.
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Finnforest
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 21:20 |
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Simple Question. Do you like these post Drama offerings from Yes?
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About as much as Kilroy Was Here. A few decent moments but they have not aged well. Hearts is probably the one track I still enjoy, sometimes Changes goes down OK. But with so much great stuff around, I can't be bothered with these anymore.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 21:35 |
Two good albums, I still listen to them once in a while and think `Yep, pretty alright'....and then I put them back on the shelf for another two years or so!
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Dellinger
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 22:36 |
I like 90125 better, Big Generator has almost nothing for me to enjoy, except for "Shoot High, Aim Low" and "The Lamb" (was it indeed that the name of that song?). However, I feel 90125 was a better album (I particularly like the big hit) and Big Generator just tried to repeat the success. However, nothing from this line-up compares with "Endless Dream".
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AreYouHuman
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 23:01 |
I’d been enjoying Yes since
1974, so when 90125 came along I knew this was something different from them
but I didn’t consider it a comedown, just a fresh approach. Leave It, It Can Happen, Cinema and Changes in
particular stood up to their classics.
On BG, Shoot High Aim Low, I’m Running, Final Eyes are my faves, and
even Love Will Find a Way, despite its poppier sound, found favor with me.
I almost saw them on the BG
tour, but Trevor Rabin had medical issues and so a few dates were cancelled.
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Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously.
Silly human race! Yes is for everybody!
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infocat
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:37 |
90125 = YES BG = NO
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-- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth.
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richardh
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:44 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I like both quite a lot......90125 is a fantastic album. And BG has it's moments, I love Shoot High Aim Low and a few others. Question, would 90125 been different had they recorded it under the Cinema group name rather than Yes name? |
Presumably Cinema being Jobson instead of Kaye and no Anderson? Would have been interesting to hear the songs with Squire or Rabin doing vocals and Jobson is a far superior keyboard player than Kaye imo.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:53 |
Squire's bass intro to I'm Running, is superb. No 'standard' Pop band could do this quality....... 90125 is the stronger of the two. And what's more, at least at this stage (and most likely every gig even) we get an awesome Starship Trooper - with more than awesome Bass-work....... Still firmly Prog, as far as I'm concerned. Still, haven't spun either of these albums for many years.....
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verslibre
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 12:16 |
richardh wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I like both quite a lot......90125 is a fantastic album. And BG has it's moments, I love Shoot High Aim Low and a few others. Question, would 90125 been different had they recorded it under the Cinema group name rather than Yes name? |
Presumably Cinema being Jobson instead of Kaye and no Anderson? Would have been interesting to hear the songs with Squire or Rabin doing vocals and Jobson is a far superior keyboard player than Kaye imo. |
No offense to Kaye or anyone, but that's kind of like when Tull went from Barlow to Conway. 
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Rednight
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 14:01 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I like both quite a lot......90125 is a fantastic album. And BG has it's moments, I love Shoot High Aim Low and a few others. Question, would 90125 been different had they recorded it under the Cinema group name rather than Yes name? | Well, the most obvious difference to me is that Squire would have been the singer instead of Anderson. And hearing him sing on an original version of a song from that album as found on the most recent remaster was a sullen experience for me - not as intriguing as Anderson.
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rushfan4
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 14:04 |
The 90125 Remaster version has bonus tracks which includes 4 of the songs as original recorded in the Cinema sessions (if my memory serves me right).
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ole-the-first
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 15:49 |
90125 is not a bad album, quite good pop music actually.
Big Generator is terrible, could have been the worst thing Yes ever released, but since now the worst Yes' album for me is 'Heaven & Earth'.
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Michael678
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 17:22 |
Dellinger wrote:
I like 90125 better, Big Generator has almost nothing for me to enjoy, except for "Shoot High, Aim Low" and "The Lamb" (was it indeed that the name of that song?). However, I feel 90125 was a better album (I particularly like the big hit) and Big Generator just tried to repeat the success. |
nope, it's Holy Lamb (Song for Harmonic Convergence); it's actually my favorite song on the album, along with Rhythm of Love and Love Will Find a Way.
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Dellinger
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 23:36 |
Michael678 wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
I like 90125 better, Big Generator has almost nothing for me to enjoy, except for "Shoot High, Aim Low" and "The Lamb" (was it indeed that the name of that song?). However, I feel 90125 was a better album (I particularly like the big hit) and Big Generator just tried to repeat the success. |
nope, it's Holy Lamb (Song for Harmonic Convergence); it's actually my favorite song on the album, along with Rhythm of Love and Love Will Find a Way. | Yeah, that's it. No wonder it sounded wrong to me. However, that's among my favourite too, even though it seems to go mostly unnoticed. I really love the vocals on that one, some of the most beautiful Andersong has done.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 23:47 |
O.K. I have a confession to make....... Around the time of the release of the Big G album, I was on holiday in Bali. I would've been 15 years old, tapes were cheap there so I bought up all these albums by curious bands I'd read about in the Encyclopedia Of Rock book which I flogged from the school library. Well, that's not the confession here, what is though, is, the tape of Big Generator came housed in a video cassette-like cover, and instead of the yellow/pink cover, it's printed in green background with a purple Big logo. Anyway, at that stage I loved the album soooo much, I used to plonk the cassette under my pillow when I went to sleep !!! Only my mate Gav, whom I haven't a seen for nearly 20 years, can attest to this. True story
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 06 2014 at 19:53 |
I kind of liked 90210 at the time. But it really marked Yes catching commercialitis for me and really marked the turning point where I really lost interest in what they were doing. They gained pop fans at the expense of losing their prog fans.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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bhikkhu
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Posted: December 06 2014 at 20:04 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
O.K. I have a confession to make....... Around the time of the release of the Big G album, I was on holiday in Bali. I would've been 15 years old, tapes were cheap there so I bought up all these albums by curious bands I'd read about in the Encyclopedia Of Rock book which I flogged from the school library. Well, that's not the confession here, what is though, is, the tape of Big Generator came housed in a video cassette-like cover, and instead of the yellow/pink cover, it's printed in green background with a purple Big logo. Anyway, at that stage I loved the album soooo much, I used to plonk the cassette under my pillow when I went to sleep !!! Only my mate Gav, whom I haven't a seen for nearly 20 years, can attest to this. True story  |
A cassette under you pillow eh? And to think that a year earlier the cassette of Invisible Touch I bought ended being kept in a special place too. The garbage can!  Also a true story.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 06 2014 at 20:27 |
^ I just looked - the cassette still exists, pristine condition.....
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Rednight
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Posted: December 06 2014 at 23:23 |
bhikkhu wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
O.K. I have a confession to make....... Around the time of the release of the Big G album, I was on holiday in Bali. I would've been 15 years old, tapes were cheap there so I bought up all these albums by curious bands I'd read about in the Encyclopedia Of Rock book which I flogged from the school library. Well, that's not the confession here, what is though, is, the tape of Big Generator came housed in a video cassette-like cover, and instead of the yellow/pink cover, it's printed in green background with a purple Big logo. Anyway, at that stage I loved the album soooo much, I used to plonk the cassette under my pillow when I went to sleep !!! Only my mate Gav, whom I haven't a seen for nearly 20 years, can attest to this. True story  |
A cassette under you pillow eh? And to think that a year earlier the cassette of Invisible Touch I bought ended being kept in a special place too. The garbage can!  Also a true story. Oh, I still have my Invisible Touch cassette. It serves as a reminder of my unyielding faithfulness at the time to a once great band. I know now how foolish I had been in its purchase (I still like Domino though).
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