Tangerine Dream Appreciation Thread

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   An old friend of mine recently gave me the new Official Bootleg Series vol 1...habahaba
I initially thought it was a rerelease of the Bootleg boxset, which I already own, but it isn't. I am completely over the moon! More live TD from the luscious 70s?!?!?! You betcha. 
To be fair, I've heard all of these tunes before over ze JooToob, but it's nice to have my own copy. 
The sound quality is alright, but don't expect to hear a Steven Wilson-like clarity though. Most of the cuts still have that slightly fuzzy feel you often get from live albums cut during the 70s. I don't mind really. I can hear and differentiate between the different instruments and am never in any doubt as to whom is playing what (almost that is).
Fans of Stratosfear and Phaedra, in particular, should definitely have a look see, because these 4 discs contain the aftermath of those seminal records....but in true TD fashion it's all improvised within certain sounds and rehearsed grooves. You never get a full TRACK from a record though, which is one of my absolute favourite things about this band. 
I can just imagine buying one of their LPs during the 70s - spinning that sucker like it was going out of fashion - remembering every little sound and musical gesture....and then buying tickets to see them tour the given album - finding out you don't know a peep and as a consequence stand absolutely no chance of whistling along as you've practised during late night weed seances.

Edited by Guldbamsen - June 20 2016 at 03:23

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Guldbamsen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23167	Posted: June 20 2016 at 03:22
	An old friend of mine recently gave me the new Official Bootleg Series vol 1...habahaba I initially thought it was a rerelease of the Bootleg boxset, which I already own, but it isn't. I am completely over the moon! More live TD from the luscious 70s?!?!?! You betcha. To be fair, I've heard all of these tunes before over ze JooToob, but it's nice to have my own copy. The sound quality is alright, but don't expect to hear a Steven Wilson-like clarity though. Most of the cuts still have that slightly fuzzy feel you often get from live albums cut during the 70s. I don't mind really. I can hear and differentiate between the different instruments and am never in any doubt as to whom is playing what (almost that is). Fans of Stratosfear and Phaedra, in particular, should definitely have a look see, because these 4 discs contain the aftermath of those seminal records....but in true TD fashion it's all improvised within certain sounds and rehearsed grooves. You never get a full TRACK from a record though, which is one of my absolute favourite things about this band. I can just imagine buying one of their LPs during the 70s - spinning that sucker like it was going out of fashion - remembering every little sound and musical gesture....and then buying tickets to see them tour the given album - finding out you don't know a peep and as a consequence stand absolutely no chance of whistling along as you've practised during late night weed seances. Edited by Guldbamsen - June 20 2016 at 03:23
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Modrigue Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: January 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 1127	Posted: June 20 2016 at 02:24
	I think TD may be my second favorite prog band, after Pink Floyd. BTW, Documentary is coming...
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2dogs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705	Posted: June 20 2016 at 00:30
	I never saw them in concert but the live abums I have - Klangwald, Deutschlandhalle, Ricochet, Encore, Quichotte/Pergamon, Logos, Poland - are all great individual works in their own right rather than simply repeating the compositions on the studio albums .

kenethlevine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9203	Posted: June 19 2016 at 15:38
	Always a band near and dear to my heart. My favorites are Stratosfear, Cyclone, Force Majeure, and even Exit and Underwater Sunlight. I saw them once, in 1988, and they were like GODS I tell you, perhaps the single best show I ever went to. The show was a trip - I don't think any of the selections came from any albums I knew, or perhaps any at all, but I loved them the same

2dogs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705	Posted: June 19 2016 at 08:45
	It's great to see someone using real equipment Dave . After seeing the Coventry Cathedral concert broadcast on BBC TV, Ricochet was the first proper album I bought - in 1976 at the age of 14, on cassette . After that, Stratosfear and Sorcerer then got too distracted by other things. In the last ten years or so I've discovered and come to love the earlier albums through exploring the Krautrock genre, then at the end of 2013 decided The Virgin Years: 1977-1983 box set was so cheap it had to be worth a try. This thread and the PA reviews have now got me as far as 1986's Green Desert and Underwater Sunlight although skipping Le Parc and the soundtrack albums after Thief and I'm finding at least some quality tracks on all of them (and I do now enjoy the whole of Cyclone ). TD were certainly very inventive and at least during the first 15 years or so were dedicated to trying out new sounds and techniques, so a lot longer than the worthwhile careers of most groups .

Davesax1965 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839	Posted: April 05 2016 at 03:34
	Just another snippet or two.... https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/liveseq https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/thingseq https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/sequential We will be as near to 70's TD equipment as it's possible to get. ;-) Edited by Davesax1965 - April 05 2016 at 03:40


Davesax1965 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839	Posted: April 05 2016 at 02:48
	And the "business end" - this is somewhat of an oversimplification.... A second synth goes into the blank panel at the bottom and then it becomes even more complicated. ;-) As far as I know, no one has ever rack mounted these particular sequencers before. A second rack will hold mixers and effects processors. All other synths go through the mixer as well. And there'll be two (retro) synth players, hopefully a drummer and guitarist, I double up on sax, my brother doubles up on guitar and I'm also hand building a vintage psychedelic lightshow. ;-) We'll also be using reel to reel tape players for background sound effects. Let's see if it all happens. ;-) Edited by Davesax1965 - April 05 2016 at 02:54


Davesax1965 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839	Posted: April 05 2016 at 02:48
	Just a key to what's going on in there.... ;-)


Davesax1965 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839	Posted: April 05 2016 at 02:42
	I'll eventually be setting up an "early (mid 70's) Tangerine Dream soundalike band" in the UK. This involves using up to date versions of the analogue equipment TD were using around the "Ricochet" period. Anything which doesn't exist has to be built, and so far, I've built one analogue synth and a dual sequencer unit. You can see the first basic road test of the sequencer box below - this is still under development and will end up much, much more complicated. This is the tip of the technical iceberg. We have two modular synths already and several analogue synths. If all goes well, and I can find some suitable musicians, I'll be doing live gigs (UK) by the end of 2017. That's the theory. ;-) Edited by Davesax1965 - April 05 2016 at 02:53


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	hmmm TD Rules one of many fav`s of mine is echoes live four epic tracks wonderful...
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	^Yes, it sounds great! I prefer this sound to what "Tangerine Dream" have been doing as of late.
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	New Baumann coming out in May, sounds really promising
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	^ Apparently you were savvy enough at 14 to recognize that this was appropriate music to read Moorcock by. Excellent! I’ve long thought that Klaus Schulze’s “Timewind” was the perfect soundtrack to his works, especially “The Ice Schooner” or “The Silver Warriors.” Though I knew about TD very well, it took a few years before I started buying their records, beginning with “Ricochet” (excellent choice for a starter), “Tangram”, the “Legend” STK, “White Eagle”, “Logos”; then I got brave and bought the “In the Beginning” box, which collected their pre-Virgin works plus the unreleased “Green Desert.” Edited by AreYouHuman - February 26 2016 at 18:58
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Cosmiclawnmower Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 4019	Posted: February 22 2016 at 16:56
	I first heard Tangerine dream in the mid 70's, Rubicon, Phaedra and Ricochet listening on head phone whilst reading Michael Moorcock books!! (I was 14!). I then heard Force Majeure (on the Friday night rock show also!!) and was blown away too! I saw them in Bristol in the early 80's but cant remember what year.. it was a very ambient show with a lot of 'shuffling' beats and sequencers which you could see influencing artists like 'the Orb'. I then saw them in London (shepherds bush empire) on the 'Tyranny of Beauty / Goblin Theatre' tour (the only live show in Europe that year?) and it was sold out, full of people from all over the world as well as very aromatic smoky smells!! Very Trancey, dancey show and completely different from before.. an absolutely stunning version of 'Dolphin dance' (from 'Underwater sunlight') which is one of my favourites with some superb, emotional guitar work.. fantastic stuff!! I also really rate 'Poland- the Warsaw concert' as the definitive lp of the Johannes Schmoelling era.


The.Crimson.King Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596	Posted: February 22 2016 at 11:17
	I have a handful of 70's TD albums that don't get much action these days, except the one I always come back to: Phaedra. An absolute masterpiece that transcends their genre. Also have a few Klaus Schulze albums that I regularly spin (Picture Music, Timewind, Mirage, X) and Froese's Epsiilon in Malaysian Pale which I'm still getting into...
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Meltdowner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10281	Posted: February 22 2016 at 10:14
	I didn't know that video, it's really incredible. Thanks for sharing

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	Indeed. Apropos Baumann and Tangerine Dream. I must've watched this one hundreds of times. The opening piano playing by Froese is heartbreakingly beautiful and always leaves me with a bittersweet smile on my face - more so now than ever. Oh Edgar
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	His solo career is not really good, but he seemed to put a lot of thought into this one. We'll have to wait to find out.

Guldbamsen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23167	Posted: February 22 2016 at 09:37
	I think I'll have a listen before I purchase - mostly because I have far too much Tangerine Dream and Tangerine Dream-like music in my collection....but if it's good it's good. This was pretty interesting btw - I had no idea he'd been studying psychology and philosophy: "In October 2014 an idea suddenly came to mind. Although I had spent much of my life performing, recording and producing music, my attention over the immediately preceding years had been focused on the philosophy and psychology of human nature. It was a rewarding exploration, but I missed being more creative – suddenly I felt the urge to play music again. I built a recording studio in my basement and began writing material for the first time in a long while. In November I called Edgar Froese and we met in early January 2015 in Austria. It was an extraordinary encounter and it seemed like it would lead to a renewed collaboration after several decades. As many of you now know Edgar passed away on January 20th 2015, I miss him dearly."
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Meltdowner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10281	Posted: February 22 2016 at 08:44
	Bump! Peter Baumann's new solo album will be released May 20th: http://www.bureau-b.com/infotexte/BB234_PeterBaumann_MOD_eng.pdf