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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 04:39

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

90125 is an iconic 80's rock album. Standing alongside the rest of the Yes catalogue it doesn't fair well, but in isolation of that I;d say it's a great album.

Agreed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 04:45
It va good album, but not my favourite.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:22
Come on now. It may not be my fave by far, but it still has something to recommend it (City Of Love, Changes, It Can Happen...)

Unlike the stinky Big Generator (Final Eyes notwithstanding)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:30
Bljak album. Waste of time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 06:08

90125 is an excellent album and I'm a Wakeman/Fragile/Close to the Edge fan. I really like the vocal harmonies.

I'm really annoyed that a remastered version has the acapella track and I've already got the album without. Is it a ploy to rip us off?

Big Generator is inconsistent. Despite Shoot High, Aim Low etc, Jacaranda is very poor. I haven't heard all of the Talk album. Can anyone recommend it to someone that likes both 70s and 80s versions of the group? I understand that Union is bad, but I've heard Shock to the System and thought it was pretty good. Am I mistaken? 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 06:12
All three 'YESwest' albums are great IMO!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 06:39

Originally posted by darksideone darksideone wrote:

it was great as pop albums as the 80 genesis stuff but as a prog
is awfull.

 - a perfect definition, Darksideone!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 06:57

I think it depends on how broad a spectrum you embrace with music appreciation. 90125 was a very successful album and you can appreciate why, as it has a number of songs which are composed for much more of a mainstream audience. It is therefore better I think, not to compare it to heavily with the more progressive Yes of the 70s. I like the album because despite some of its weaknesses, it does have some clever compositional arrangements and for its time ( IMO that period of the 80s was a dogsbreakfast as far as music is concerned) even though it suffered as a result of the populist/fad mentality, it was in fact a breath of life. By that I mean, there are still some definitive Yes influences in alot of the compositions and I believe it introduced a whole new generation of young music lovers to Yes and to progrock. NetsJ summed it up quite well I think when he rated it a 5 for pop/rock and a 2 for prog. Just appreciate it for what it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 07:36

It's certainly not the most ambitious Yes album ... but it was much better than most stuff on the radio at the time.  Still, I've got "Changes", "Hearts", "City of Love" and "Hold On" loaded onto my itunes ... which is more tracks than I have from Tormato.

Then again, technically that's more tracks than from Close to the Edge or Relayer but that's beside the point ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 07:43
I quite liked 90125,it was soooo much better than Tormato or Drama,but then that would'nt be difficult. I still listen now and then.I stopped listening after Big Generator though

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 08:19

Certainly, this ain't a masterpiece.

Certainly, it has its moments.

Certainly... mah...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 08:21
Sadly,I must say it is not a good album...

Ruined a continuos line of good albums...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 09:28

I remember liking it back in 1983, when it came out, but I think that because they adopted an AOR radio friendly style, it was immediate, and has no great shelf life.  Also, it sounds very much 'of its time', and in a peculiar way, more dated than some of their great albums, even though it was written a decade later.

In truth, its not a bad album, but can't be considered as great, especially when compared to CTTE & The Yes Album....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 09:36
Originally posted by OldFatherThames OldFatherThames wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

"Owner..." is a catchy pop song, no doubt about it.

Yes........so what ?

Nothing much... Maybe I thought it's a crappy album from a prog fan's subjective point of view, but is it crappy when examined objectively? Hard to say.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 10:53

I'm revisiting my Yes' collection these days and, so far, 90125 seems to me their worst album. In my opinion it's an average 80's pop record (although the musicians are excellent).

It's the only Yes' record I've listened to that I don't feel any interest in listening to it again.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2005 at 10:57
Good album if you take it for what it is and not compare it to their earlier stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2005 at 05:39
Originally posted by Damen Damen wrote:

Good album if you take it for what it is and not compare it to their earlier stuff.

This is the right mood to listen to 90125
In my opinion, every album is a stand-alone experience: if one starts comparing it with all that went before, there's a good chance that he will be disappointed in one way or another!

Never let your prejudices guide you in listening to new stuff, even if it is made from the people you already know!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2005 at 08:59

It's first VERY different Yes album comparing to their classic "overblown masterpieces", hands down. But is it THAT bad as many scream here? It's focused, precise, polished. The melodies are there, the band's tight playing is there (even more tightened up by the revolutionary (at least back then revolutionary) production.  Missing are those self-indulgent overtly long instrumental interludes. Come one... who needs them anyway?  Less notes, more emotions! lol The band embraced some fresh ideas that were hip in the beginning of the 80's and did that successfully. At least they earned some money with 90125....

It's a fine album on it's own right, and very important in the band's history/discography. It helped them to stay alive during that horrible, overtly commercial period in pop music (which still lasts, btw, if you didn't notice that). So, GET OVER IT, you, 90125 haters!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:32

I thoroughly enjoyed the album.  In fact it was the first Yes album I listened to, and since then I've enjoyed almost all of their music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:51
I love it to bits!

I grew up with this album as it was the first Yes record I bought (way back in 1982/3). I saw them on this tour at Wembly and although I would have preferred to have seen the 'classic' line up of Horn/Downes/Squire/Howe/White , I had a great time at the gig and even got to snog a girl in the parking lot after.

What more could a guy ask for?




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