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tedfromtoe 
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Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10 |
 Posted: September 22 2005 at 17:04 |
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PS - another point to make, my top 4 (PP, TAAB, WC, MITG) each feature the exact same personnel lineup as they were recorded sequentially. If you include the "lost" album in the middle, this makes the most prolific (5 albums) lineup with no personnel changes. That was Tull in their prime.
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Biggles
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Joined: June 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 705 |
Posted: September 22 2005 at 18:18 |
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To be honest, the first time I heard it, I thought it was terrible. It actually took me far less time to get APP than War Child, funnily enough. Now it has definitely grown on me, but I agree with what Paco Fox said, that's it's neither at the bottom nor at the top of my list. I don't really see what the big deal with "Skating Away" is. It's a good song, sure, but it isn't one of the best things Tull has ever done by a long stretch, and the intro is just plain stupid. But then again, I'm one of those rare cases that thinks that "Wish You Were Here" is not only not Pink Floyd's best song, but it isn't even the best song on that album (the two "Crazy Diamonds" both being far more beautiful and inspiring imo). I too would give "War Child" no more than a 3.5. |
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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NetsNJFan
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
Posted: September 22 2005 at 19:30 |
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I like it!
I love Ladies, (the hand claps!), Only Solitaire, Sealion I'd give it about 3-3.5 its oinly bad when you consider JT also did APP, TAAB, Heavy Horses etc. |
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Andrea Cortese
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
Posted: October 05 2006 at 12:43 |
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Two reviews on War Child, today:
JETHRO TULL — War Child
Review by Shakespeare (Josh)
Posted Thursday, October 05, 2006, 12:35 EST | Permanent link  Prog Folk (Studio Album, 1974) Avg: 3.61/5 from 50 ratings JETHRO TULL — War Child
Review by anovick
Cons: not able to stand up to earlier releases, too many weak tracks
Posted Thursday, October 05, 2006, 11:55 EST | Permanent link I always liked War Child. Sealion is so powerful and also Back Door Angel is so surprising.... always thought this album is underrated...
 There are some Tull's wonderful classics here as for example Bungle in the Jungle and Skating Away... et cetera...
War Child is the Passion Play prosecution without its magniloquent structure and with a more pop mood... still great and fabulous album, btw!!! Edited by Andrea Cortese - October 05 2006 at 12:45 |
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fuxi
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Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2488 |
Posted: October 05 2006 at 13:12 |
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WARCHILD is one of my favourite Tull albums; I love every track except 'Bungle...', and thanks to the bonus tracks, it is now one helluva CD!
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Fassbinder
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VIP Member Joined: May 27 2006 Location: My world Status: Offline Points: 3497 |
Posted: October 05 2006 at 13:13 |
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Rather strange thing with this album. In the beginning, when I heard it, I thought it's rather weak. There are some good ideas, some great musicianship, but all this isn't elaborated enough. Then I heard the remastered version -- once again, the same feelings, plus the wondering why such songs like "Paradise Steakhouse" and "Quartet" were left out of the original album. But then I heard the first disc from the double The Nightcap -- namely, Chateau D'Isaster (lovely pun...), and got completely different perspective. When taken as a separate album, Warchild may be judged as rather weak. But when taken as a part of a kind of a trilogy: A Passion Play -- Chateau D'Isaster -- Warchild, it is quite alright.
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Philéas
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Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
Posted: October 05 2006 at 14:24 |
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Warchild is a great album in my opinion. It isn't Thick as a Brick, but it's still very good.
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:11 |
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Yeah, I don't really like that album at all...
No, I appear to be in the majority here. An average (3/5), balanced album. It drags here and there (ahem Back Door Agnels), but is balanced out by a few good tunes (Sealion and the immortal Bungle). And I THINK I know Tull.
This was actually the first true (i.e., not a complilation) Tull album I heard, so a lot of my Tuller experience is based on this album. Best song: Skating Away (as if you couldn't tell; very personal to me)
Worst song: Warchild (goes on and on; only bright spot is the brief sax solo)
Best song you never think of: Only Solitare (I love to quote that at random)
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:19 |
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Am I crazy or is 'Solitare' Anderson's subtle response to music critics?
Warchild is a great album. Tull's best? Maybe not, but it rocks, baby...Sealion! |
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:22 |
Well, I wouldn't call them subtle exactly...
(although, who's Steve?)
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:25 |
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Yeah, I picture 'Steve' being some misled idiot who was bashing Ian and the boys in the British press
And does the guitar riff in Sealion sound like the 'Charge' trumpet phrase or, again, am I losing my mind? Edited by Atavachron - October 06 2006 at 02:26 |
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:27 |
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Um...that really depends on what Charge is. I don't think I've heard (of) it...why does this feel like a trap?
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:30 |
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It's no trap, believe me. I guess if you're not American you might not know it, but it was a trumpet riff used by the cavalry to signal a charge of men and horses. Barre's riff sounds alot like it and sometimes musicians get their inspiration from strange places.
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:38 |
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I'm not an American; I'm an Angelino! Oh! OH! The bugle charge thingy! Yeah, I know that. Sure. In old westerns all the time. I guess I can see how you could say that. Man, now I'm really craving that album... |
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:43 |
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Yeah, the bugle thingy, exactly. I'm probably the only one on Earth who thinks that, but that's O.K. You're in L.A.? I was in Hollywood while I went to music school-- lived on Orchid across from the Holiday Inn.
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:47 |
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Yeah, never heard of it! (More of a West LA kinda guy) |
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:57 |
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Wait, I hear it! When he does the "bum-bum-bum-budda-bum" riff! Yeah!
That probably only makes sense if you're listening to the song right now.
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:09 |
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That's it! I didn't want to try to write bum-bum-bum-buddabum, but you got it.
 Edited by Atavachron - October 06 2006 at 03:10 |
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:16 |
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Well, I've never quite been able to read music (I always check for the TAB in the back of the book), but I sure can sling a good "bum-bum-bum." |
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65864 |
Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:19 |
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All you need for music is a good ear and a passion for it.
BTW-- If you like Warchild I assume you also appreciate Benefit and Minstrel, as they're both rockin, too. Edited by Atavachron - October 06 2006 at 03:26 |
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I think the magical, atmospheric, poetic and creative qualities that made other Tull work's essential are missing here. But don't get me wrong, this is still a great album! There are some catchy and fun tunes, but nothing will move you enough to put it anywhere near your favourites list. There's nothing memorable about this album. 
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