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Frenetic Zetetic 
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Tales and In a Glass House deserve to be higher!
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someone_else
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 02:16 |
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I agree. 90125 is a four star album in my book. Some others worth mentioning: Alquin - Best Kept Secret (2.56): Maybe a bit more AOR than actual prog, but still their second best album in my book, after The Mountain Queen that hovers near the border of my top 10. Fish - Suits (2.83) Marillion - Holidays in Eden (3.12): Just above the 3.0, but nevertheless one of the albums I think of. Can't help it.
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Cristi
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 02:27 |
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wow, really? Not even a 3.00?  I agree it's underrated. One of my favorite albums from Fish.
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essexboyinwales
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Nomzamo (IQ) - 2.8 Are You Sitting Comfortably (IQ) - 2.75 These scores are shocking. I love both of these albums, and they contain some of IQ's best tracks. Horrendously underrated..... And I should have said, I would rate them both as 4 stars
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micky
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 04:53 |
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a July 4th much too early for mere mortals
 to those who mentioned Tales... really probably is the single most underrated album on the site. Mainly for the stupid reasons those who underrate it.. do so...'Wakeman didn't like it' So what? He still did some of his best work ON this album the problem with many reviews and reviewers in my experience.. and years of it.. reading reviewers and interacting with said reviewers. It is the complete lack of context when doing reviews. You personally like it.. or not.. so the f**k what. That is subjective.. what make a great reviewer is knowing enough about the music, the genre per se to be able to put the review and what you are reviewing in context. 'too long.. bloated.. padding'? the genesis of that notion.. again back to Wakeman. One review nailed this in rebuttal to that old stale criticism.. the basic point about Yes that many may 'know ' instinctively but don't really understand the full implications of was well laid out by one reviewer.. perhaps the finest and best reviwer I've ever dealt with .. Remember though that progressive rock in it's highest expression, and make no mistake.. this is it, is art. Art is supposed to be evaluated and reflected upon by each individual, and that is why this album has opinions ranging from.. the greatest musical work of the last 50 years to being on the top 10 list of worst albums ever made. If art and progressive rock are designed to provoke and stimulate.. then this album succeeds far more than any progressive rock album ever made. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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maryes
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 06:52 |
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I agree and IMHO Kansas "The Point of Know Return" , Finch "The Glory of Inner Force" and "Beyond Expression", Modry Efekt "Svitanie" and "Svet Hledacu" , Focus "Hamburger Concerto also deserves a better quotation !!!
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miamiscot
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 09:02 |
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Le Orme Contrappunti - This is consistently regarded as somehow inferior to the two or three that came before it. That is a mistake. Wonderful LP and their last "perfect" album for me...
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patrickq
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 09:11 |
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Taking this comment out of context... I agree: it doesn’t matter if Wakeman didn’t like it. Also, he definitely did some of his best work here. But in my opinion, it is definitely padded and relatively uninspired in my opinion, though very well performed, not only by Wakeman. |
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Lewian
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 10:32 |
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At the end of the day of course make up your own mind and don't believe any authority and surely not allmusic... but as far as I've explored allmusic ratings and reviews (prog and probably more non-prog), they're in most situations in line with other "expert" critical appreciation in the long run and they mostly make good sense. I wouldn't dismiss them too easily.
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 22:01 |
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Surely there are many that I won't remember right now, but the first one that comes to my mind is Wakeman's Arthur album, my favourite from him and one of my favourites in general, yet no one seems to care much about it.
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patrickq
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 22:41 |
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richardh
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Posted: July 04 2019 at 23:45 |
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Generally the ratings on this site can be trusted . All I hear is a lot of moaning about nothing. Tales is nowhere near as inspired as several other Yes albums. They got severely bogged down trying to live up to their own hype but came back strong with Relayer. Wakeman's best work is on his solo albums. Perhaps Criminal Record is criminally underrated LOL! In A Glass House is ridiculously overrated even for GG! Nomzamo has maybe 2 decent prog tracks Are You Sitting Comfortably? is a good pop prog album but this is a prog site! All in my opinion of course
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 00:15 |
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Ha! Roman Bunka's first solo album "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto", in my opinion one of the greatest albums EVER, is rated at 3.32 here. "Close to the Edge" on the other hand, not even the best Yes album, leads the charts with 4.66. Ridiculous!
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 01:34 |
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A recent lyrical concepts poll has Yes' Topographic Oceans trailing. Don't know why but it is. Maybe a poll with say 90125 would be interesting (lyrics wise). Thankfully I trust site users to be honest rather than playing fanboy politics - that is really good. Most bands and albums are underrated. All overrated mean is someone disagrees with a majority view. They can still be underrated. As good and great as ELP were (Welcome Back is defining)... they had one slight flaw and that was song writing. As much as Keith Emerson could conjure up his masterpieces they still need a decent tune - which happens but this is where Yes and Genesis manage to nudge ahead. Genesis were a band of song writers and Yes had Jon Anderson with a little help from his chums. But frankly only Jon can really write good songs (until Trevor Rabin showed up). The others' material exist very well in prog land but not outside it. Greg Lake could put together some songs . I had an album of his the one he did with Gary Moore - the openers of each side were killer - the rest... disappointing. Still, ELP played to their strengths. Works 2 a is a great example of an underrated album. Where do you get band with so much versatility? As performers of virtuoso music with out compare (love that 1997 Montreux DVD)... Not sure Hendrix would have fitted in: Steve Howe would have been in interesting fixture. HELP might have been a funny acronym but not as funny as the possibility of David Coverdale joining Lord, Ashton and Paice. Which he didn't - I think for that reason... |
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 04:10 |
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Definitely agree about World Record. |
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 05:36 |
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yep, "World Record" is much better than its average rating
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 06:11 |
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I also think "World Record" is underrated. It's my #3 VdGG album (after "Pawn Hearts" and "H to He, Who Am The Only One"). It was also my first exposure to the music of VdGG.
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 06:53 |
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I just love it when a long track starts as a fugue and ends as a reggae
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 07:20 |
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I am of the opinion that the simplistic story of "lyrics" are the problem. Folks want lyrics like Cliff Notes and Wiki, so they don't have to read anything, or learn anything. just know what it is about. TFTO is online with many spiritual works, that when you read them, you spend a long time looking at it and you either appreciate the point of view and learn more, or you go back to get drunk and stoned on sheepdip music, that tells you something, because you are too empty to imagine anything else! I've said all along, it is the greatest single piece of work I have ever seen and appreciated in my life, and it is way up there with the title cut of YETI and a couple of other pieces. Even though it has lyrics, and I love them dearly, it is the completeness of it that is so strong, and so well done, that it is a shame that a drunkard's opinion has to factor and help separate the fans, and make it all worse. He was a part of it, and he should have appreciated it, and instead, he does not even have the guts to show/give us a different take on the piece of music, by coming up with new/different musical passages for it. He is a typical high level college/university professor that thinks he knows his music and that makes him special! I'm tired of it! His solo stuff is middle class garbage!
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Posted: July 05 2019 at 07:29 |
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I know she's a recent addition, and it's my fault not yet having spared the time to write a proper review, but seminal albums from 1978-1979, which I rate both with 5 stars, should have found more appreciation around here. Hope you boys and girls find the time to make a listen soon. (and I agree with World Record - maybe not a solid masterpiece but surely 4 stars at least) |
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