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Poll Question: Yes Tales Or Genesis The Lamb
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2020 at 00:49
Never been a great fan of Lamb, but that's just me. Concede there's a couple of killer tracks including Cage and Carpet Crawlers. Side 4 I found really disappointing as though the band have simply run out of ideas.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2020 at 01:35
Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

Topographic Oceans easily, despite it's flaws... the album attempts to musically convey the entire breadth of human knowledge, whereas The Lamb is just a weird story.

I have to laugh, because while I do love both records - I agree and I know exactly what you mean by "weird" regarding Lamb.

What I love about Lamb is it truly is the quintessential Peter Gabriel fever dream lyrical expose. It's full bore unrestricted Peter Gabriel in every sense possible. It's like Supper's Ready on steroids, which doesn't automatically make it as good or better by any means.

What really grabs me on Tales, though, is how Anderson and Howe (mostly the former) extrapolated so much creativity out of a single footnote on a Yogi in his book. It wasn't a dedicated chapter, nor even a section in the book - a damn footnote

A lot of people rail on Yes for their "airy" and "padded" musical/lyrical concepts and attempts - but for me that's just further proof of how friggin' magical that band was at that time. 

Their creativity was, for all practical intents and purposes, seemingly limitless. 

I'd imagine they could have made as equally a majestic, impressive, divisive progressive rock recording in 1973 had Anderson and co. felt equally as moved, impressed, inspired, and motivated to create had it been a TV Guide advertisement from their hotel room instead! WinkCool

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tdfloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2020 at 01:57
A huge fan of both bands,  if my desert island aloud me only one of the groups discography  I would choose Genesis,  but I feel the Lamb is overrated.  Tony should have told Peter to shut up a few more times.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2020 at 03:37
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

They are both overrated vanity projects that could do with some major pruning down to 1 album each.

I think TFTO could have been better if it wasn't just Anderson and Howe driving it (..over the cliff imo).

Lamb is about 70-80% absolutely brilliant. If both were 60 minutes , Lamb would be 5 stars (instead of 4) and Tales 4 stars (instead of 3). There just isn't enough 'going on' with Tales. It's an 'idea' lacking inspiration. Lamb feels a lot more like a band project that only slightly veered off the road. Has any ex-member of Genesis turned on it like Wakeman did with tales?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2020 at 12:09
Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Lamb, by a landslide..
A LAMBSLIDE HA!
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Genesis. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2020 at 01:09
Tales have a "greater" concept, but the execution is subpar at times. It drags, meanders, loses its steam. Lamb is more focused (but still faulty).
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My two favorite LP's ever.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2020 at 06:57
Much prefer The Lamb, musically, and lyrically. TFTO has some good musical moments but the themes and the concept do nothing for me. Overall it feels like they were trying too hard to be clever. I suspect they weren't, but I can understand the cynicism towards this album, and I share some of it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Moyan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2024 at 16:32
"Tales from Topographic Oceans"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote RockHound Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2024 at 21:30
Both are great.
I prefer Tales because it sounds more cohesive.
The Lamb, by contrast, is a schizophrenic album about schizophrenia.
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I like both equally. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2024 at 03:40
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
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