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Poll Question: What, out of these, is the best new neo prog album?
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7 [26.92%]
2 [7.69%]
4 [15.38%]
1 [3.85%]
3 [11.54%]
2 [7.69%]
1 [3.85%]
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0 [0.00%]
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Another tough poll! Good job Paul! Ok, The Rutles for me. At least until I can make up my mind.
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New Neo-Prog is more aesthetically pleasing to me than Modern Neo-Prog. I like paralllelism, and since Neo means new and sounds so much like new, it works better for me. That said I would prefer a New Neu! topic, but that’s my musical bias. Might be a few Nu Neu bands. I do think we can get too hung hung up on labels and titles.

As for the poll, I haven’t heard any of them since it did omit The Rutles.

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^ Psychic Paul looks into his crystal ball and predicts he won't be running any more New/Neo Prog polls. Wink
 
By the way, I'm voting for The Psychedelic Ensemble, having heard them for the first time today and discovered their music sounds just as good as their name. Smile 
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Well, I hope you do start some new Prog polls at some time, possibly of the non remotely aurally new or old Neo-Prog style variety. Now I’m off to listen to some neo Krautrock — “Meet the new Kraut, same as the old Kraut” (die Who), followed by, perhaps, some Neofolk. I might just do a Neo-Prog vs. neofolk poll at some time.

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Ok Frost. Not my favorite by them but they deserve some love.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Well, I hope you do start some new Prog polls at some time, possibly of the non remotely aurally new or old Neo-Prog style variety. Now I’m off to listen to some neo Krautrock — “Meet the new Kraut, same as the old Kraut” (die Who), followed by, perhaps, some Neofolk. I might just do a Neo-Prog vs. neofolk poll at some time.
 
I did start a new Prog poll today, but it was of Ye Olde Brit Prog variety. Smile
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I know just 2 of these and I will go with Frost*, as I did in another poll some days ago.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sylvan - Home (2015) is my choice here. 





Excellent choice, me too...
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The Frost* album is exceptional (apparently there is a new one planned for next year) so I voted for that. 

the Legend album is also great and Magenta's Masters of Illusion is my favourite album of the year so far. I'm not particularly familiar with anything else on the list though.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Psycho Paul's definition of neo is not quite right.
PS. I love calling him Psycho Paul.


Deli means crazy, mad in Turkish. PsycheDELİc Paul has some craziness inside, from a Turkish standpoint. LOL
I could get used to being called Psycho Paul. Tongue Meanwhile, it's time to delve into my psychedelicatessen of tasty musical delights.
 
By the way, I enjoyed The Queen of Sorrow video by The Psychedelic Ensemble. Thumbs Up
Good! Glad to return the favour (you introduced me to Tony Banks's solo albums).
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I didn't think you were saying "new neo-prog" was a sub-genre. I thought you were just referring to newer neo bands/releases. Though they definitely sound different from the classic sound. I haven't heard all these bands yet, but Frost* was always one that I had trouble pegging as neo exactly. I think a couple years ago they were in crossover (before I joined the forums), but are now neo. Their second album definitely fits crossover. The first and third kind of live in that sort of "new prog" pocket, ESPECIALLY Falling Satellites, The debut is more symphy, and I can understand it being labelled neo, but... I don't know, it kind of doesn't fit with me. I've heard only one Sanguine Hum track so far, but it gave me the same vibe.

Anyway, Cristi, if you want to hear post-progressive, check out 80s KC or Fripp and Eno's stuff. We're allowed to use terms from outside the site. Expand your horizons. You learned something new didn't you?
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:


Anyway, Cristi, if you want to hear post-progressive, check out 80s KC or Fripp and Eno's stuff. We're allowed to use terms from outside the site. Expand your horizons. You learned something new didn't you?

Why are you reopening that can of worms, I thought that discussion was done. 

So if I do not accept genre names from other sites, I'm narrow-minded? I do not expand my horizons? I've never heard of post-progressive until this thread. Gee, I wonder why? 

Terms like neo-prog, eclectic prog and crossover prog work fine with me, so yeah, excuse my narrow-mindedness and arrogance, I do not need a term like post-progressive. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The Frost* album is exceptional


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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Another tough poll! Good job Paul! Ok, The Rutles for me. At least until I can make up my mind.
Which Paul? What good job did Paul do? Slightly confused. Smile
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Terms like neo-prog, eclectic prog and crossover prog work fine with me, so yeah, excuse my narrow-mindedness and arrogance, I do not need a term like post-progressive. 
No one said you were arrogant. If you won't use the term, I won't criticise you, I believe you should just enjoy the music and not care too much about terminology. However, please accept that post progressive is a term. Just because it's not on prog archives officially doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Terms like neo-prog, eclectic prog and crossover prog work fine with me, so yeah, excuse my narrow-mindedness and arrogance, I do not need a term like post-progressive. 

No one said you were arrogant. If you won't use the term, I won't criticise you, I believe you should just enjoy the music and not care too much about terminology. However, please accept that post progressive is a term. Just because it's not on prog archives officially doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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I do enjoy music, from various decades, various genres.

But terminology matters, when people come up with their own terms, genre names it only creates confusion. If one disagrees with the PA genre names, go ahead and talk about it, but I do not have to use a term someone else borrowed from God knows where. 

To some people, wikipedia seems more credible than our own PA, it's ridiculous, gives me a headache... 
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^The term post progressive was in use long before Wikipedia existed. 
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^The term post progressive was in use long before Wikipedia existed. 

and yet I've never heard of it. Confused Never seen it used, not here on PA, not in the other places I have used for music news, discussion etc. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^The term post progressive was in use long before Wikipedia existed. 

and yet I've never heard of it. Confused Never seen it used, not here on PA, not in the other places I have used for music news, discussion etc. 
To be fair, it isn't common. It came briefly in the early 80s and then practically disappeared. Neo prog was much more popular.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^The term post progressive was in use long before Wikipedia existed. 

and yet I've never heard of it. Confused Never seen it used, not here on PA, not in the other places I have used for music news, discussion etc. 
To be fair, it isn't common. It came briefly in the early 80s and then practically disappeared. Neo prog was much more popular.

but neo-prog refers to a specific sound. I wanted to explain some thread here what that sound is, but gave up, best suggestion I could make was for people to listen to the debut albums of Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ. It's all there. Smile


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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Another tough poll! Good job Paul! Ok, The Rutles for me. At least until I can make up my mind.
Which Paul? What good job did Paul do?
Sorry, about that. I thought there were two Pauls here. It must be the uncanny similarities. Wink


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