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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Hot Take = Unpopular Opinion

Oh, okay. I have no shortage of unpopular opinions when it comes to the music of YES and Van der Graaf Generator. Smile
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^Keep em coming
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

^Keep em coming

Unpopular opinion: Mirror to the Sky is the best YES album.
Popular opinion: Open Your Eyes is the worst YES album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote HolyMoly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:50
My favorite PFM song is a synth pop track from 1984.
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Minstrel in the Gallery is Tull's Best Album
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Takes that most people wouldn't agree with. 
Some of mine:

Tales is the Best Yes Album
Shine On > Echoes
Time and a Word > The Yes Album



^^ Relayer is my favourite but I think Tales is a strong contender. I also prefer Time and a Word to the Yes Album. I haven't listened to Echoes in a long time, but I would pick Shine over it from memory. Think of Me with Kindness is a wonderful song - the best? Not for me.

My hottest takes off the top of my head:

- I hope this isn't blasphemy but IQ and Galahad don't appeal to me (Not had an exhaustive listen, but I do keep dipping back in)
- Folklore is overrated as a BBT album
- Yessongs version of Fragile tracks >>>>> Fragile
- I prefer Phil Collins era Genesis (with the exception of Selling England), but I prefer Peter Gabriel solo to Collins solo
- Flower Kings' Flower Power should be one disc long and it should be called Garden of Dreams
- Falling into Infinity >>> Six Degrees and Octavarium


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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Minstrel in the Gallery is Tull's Best Album


Agree! I love it.
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Subterranea is a mid-tier album. Too Long. Could've used some editing
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Six Wives Of Henry VIII is the best instrumental prog album
Supertramp were a full on prog band
Tangerine Dream made better albums after the 70's
Eloy were the best prog band between 1973 and 1982
'Clone bands' is not a thing
Alternative music is not prog
King Crimson didn't invent prog rock














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Not sure how unpopular this is, but Heavy Horses > Songs from the Wood
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Hot take, or at least pretty warm: Magma never bettered its 1970 debut, and it's the peak of Magma. But MDK is more quotable (as a cold take).

Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name.

Luke-warm take: Had Christian Vander teamed up on a film with Mark Hamill as his uncle Peter Hammill's brother, Darth Vander, it would have been cool.

Darth Vander: "Luke, Kobaïa is de Hündïn, kreühn köhrmahn iss de hündïn..."
Luke Skywalker: "Noooooooooo!"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:37
Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Not sure how unpopular this is, but Heavy Horses > Songs from the Wood

both are very highly rated in the Tull canon

I'm waiting for someone to say War Child is their best album Wink
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^Oh no, I STRONGLY dislike that album. Bored me to tears. Same with The Final Cut (Floyd's worst album by a MILE)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:01
^War Child is a great album!

IQ gets too much praise, and Peter Nicholls singing is like fingernails on a chalkboard.


Edited by Grumpyprogfan - November 28 2023 at 05:02
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:05
It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:40
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Six Wives Of Henry VIII is the best instrumental prog album
Supertramp were a full on prog band
Tangerine Dream made better albums after the 70's
Eloy were the best prog band between 1973 and 1982
'Clone bands' is not a thing
Alternative music is not prog
King Crimson didn't invent prog rock















No, King Crimson didn't invent prog because no one band or artist did. 
It's only a clone band if a band sets out to try to sound as much as a band as possible. I think Unifaun might be the only band who qualifies in that regard (as a Genesis clone although I never actually heard them).
What was the best decade for TD then? The 80s? 
I won't comment on the others. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frets N Worries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2023 at 18:01
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing)


Comment received, the Eagles are one of the greatest bands of all time. And never made a bad song (not Prog, even they had a couple proggy moments here and there 'Journey of the Sorcerer')

In terms of Prog.. Starless and Buble Black over LTIA, and Islands over Lizard
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

^There are people who don't like Baker St. Muse??!?!
I've seen some comments from some fans saying it lacks inspiration. To me, it's a great piece of music, full of inspiration and exciting.
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Everyone should have the same taste in music as me.

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Desolation Rose is The Flower Kings' best album.
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