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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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I love Poseidon overall but the first disc is a bit too uneven for my taste, so I'm going with Keith Tippett's beautiful sophomore album. This is a very strong collection of albums though; I like Twang Bar King and One Of A Kind very much too.
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Bruford - One of a Kind (1979)
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

They're all very close for me, but at the end, I voted for King Crimson, which is the album that introduced me to the band, so it has a special meaning to me.

Likewise!!  
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Why can't you vote?
In 2021, I said you could get Covid if you got the vax.   I said 500 million years of natural immunity evolution/Mother Nature was more efficient than Pfizer messenger RNA therapy.  My PA priviliges were cancelled.  No big deal. I'm lucky to be alive!Smile
I'm shocked to read this. Where I live these things are now finally openly discussed. In the mainstream if you will. Those who tried to completely shut down these discussions in 2021-2022 and wanted to take away privileges and freedom from those who were unwilling to take the vaccine etc... are no longer "the heroes of the story". They are in fact completely silent now. Hopefully ashamed.

I personally don't have a clue - or knowledge enough to even form a personal opinion. I just did what I was told and took all the vaccines like I was supposed to. I never felt like forcing others to go against their personal beliefs though. I saw some truly extreme behaviour from friends and acquaintances online during the covid years that changed my perception of them forever.
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Anyway I just love In the Wake of Poseidon. Maybe, just maybe I can understand the initial reaction by some fans of the debut while listening to this follow-up back in 1970. But from a 2024 perspective; is it really all that similar to In the Court? For me it's just a band sounding like themselves, and I hear or see nothing wrong with that. It's two albums made with a similar mindset - a mindset that I happen to love. It feels much like the Kid A/Amnesiac issue where the latter album is seen as b-sides and leftovers from the former. By some. Not me. I simply immerse myself in all of it as a whole body of work. 

-If these songs were paintings hardly anyone would find it reasonable to dismiss the artist with a "my god this artist used color combinations and scenes in some paintings in their prior exhibition too".    
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About Greg Lake being member of the very early King Crimson, said by Charlotte Bates, Ian McDonald's girlfriend:
"Greg was a great big ego, a big penis on legs." LOL

(as quoted in David Weigel's The Show That Never Ends: The rise and fall of Prog Rock, 2017 p. 52)
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

PS.  If you can add a vote for me...Bruford.Wink 

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^ About making In th Wake of Poseidon, as told in The Show That Never Ends :

"After McDonald and Giles quit, and Lake followed, what had been a 22.5 percent royalty share for Fripp became 60 percent. He was an impresario now, even if his new singer was utterly unmoved by Keith Tippett and couldn't understand what the point was, musically, of the pianist's fingerings on songs like "Cat Food". 
"That sounds just like a cat walking across a piano," Haskell told Fripp.
"Yeah," said the impresario, "but Keith knows what he's doing . A cat doesn't."" LOL (2017, p. 59)

Great read!
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^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
Yes, it's revealed in the book that Greg Lake wasn't happy at all with ELP's Love Beach album cover, where he says their cheesy smiles  and open shirts with hairy chests on display made ELP look like the Bee Gees on holiday. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
Yes, it's revealed in the book that Greg Lake wasn't happy at all with ELP's Love Beach album cover, where he says their cheesy smiles  and open shirts with hairy chests on display made ELP look like the Bee Gees on holiday. Smile
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I can already quote too one funny statement from an ELP member, and that is Emerson's comment when he the first time heard Walter/Wendy Carlos' Switched-On Bach:
"Some other tracks sounded almost comical", he'd say "like a load of elephants farting counterpoint with whoopee cushions in accompaniment." LOL (p. 66)

But a very good thing about listening to this record was, that Emerson for the first time became familiar with a Moog synthesizer (according to Weigel).


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When talking about Bee Gees, Paul, believe it or not, I liked the movie Saturday Night Fever, so after I saw it, I got the soundtrack and was quite fond of it. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


When talking about Bee Gees, Paul, believe it or not, I liked the movie Saturday Night Fever, so after I saw it, I got the soundtrack and was quite fond of it. 
So am I, but it's a Tragedy that ELP should be compared with the Bee Gees. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

So am I, but it's a Tragedy that ELP should be compared with the Bee Gees. Tongue

I surely agree with you about that. 

 


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Paul, I can't imagine otherwise than that Weigel's book will turn you into a genuine progger. It's a remarkably great and funny read about Progressive Rock, at least the first 100 pages of it. Big smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Paul, I can't imagine otherwise than that Weigel's book will turn you into a genuine progger. It's a remarkably great and funny read about Progressive Rock, at least the first 100 pages of it. Big smile
I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. I'd also recommend Citizens of Hope and Glory telling the story of Neo Prog. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. 

Which reminds me of somebody talking about something like "maybe a full-blown proto-progger or Neo-progger". Big smile

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'd also recommend Citizens of Hope and Glory telling the story of Neo Prog. Smile

I own and have read Citizens of Hope and Glory, but I'd say, that's not much compared to Weigel's almost incredible story, or at least especially pages about Tales from Topographic Oceans are incredibly funny.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. 

Actually, I can only see this statement as a possible truth if defining prog as an umbrella for some strongly Pop-influenced music - at least with your present tastes, but I can't say for sure that they're not changing. Tongue
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Something else is, Paul, that your respect for Progressive Rock is not a very big one.
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